Bug#741573: Bug #741573:Process Approach vs Others

2015-06-21 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015, Sam Hartman wrote: > my concern is that I don't have the information I need to make a > decision between option B and option C. > > To recap, In order to figure out which wayp I would vote I'd want to: > > * Evaluate whether the claimed seconds were legitimate. I can do that

Bug#741573: Bug #741573:Process Approach vs Others

2015-06-21 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Don" == Don Armstrong writes: Don> On Wed, 27 May 2015, Sam Hartman wrote: >> > "Bdale" == Bdale Garbee writes: Bdale> I hear you, I just don't have any idea what to do differently Bdale> on this specific issue in response to knowing how you feel Bdale> about it.

Bug#741573: Bug #741573:Process Approach vs Others

2015-06-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 27 May 2015, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Bdale" == Bdale Garbee writes: > Bdale> I hear you, I just don't have any idea what to do differently > Bdale> on this specific issue in response to knowing how you feel > Bdale> about it. > > I made a specific proposal in #741573. >

Bug#741573: Bug #741573:Process Approach vs Others

2015-05-31 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Kurt" == Kurt Roeckx writes: Kurt> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 09:19:07PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: >> [moving back to the bug, because we're starting to discuss the >> issue rather than a TC communications matter.] >> >> >> > "Bdale" == Bdale Garbee writes:

Bug#741573: Bug #741573:Process Approach vs Others

2015-05-30 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 09:19:07PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > [moving back to the bug, because we're starting to discuss the issue > rather than a TC communications matter.] > > > > "Bdale" == Bdale Garbee writes: > Bdale> I hear you, I just don't have any idea what to do differently >

Bug#741573: Bug #741573:Process Approach vs Others

2015-05-27 Thread Sam Hartman
[moving back to the bug, because we're starting to discuss the issue rather than a TC communications matter.] > "Bdale" == Bdale Garbee writes: Bdale> I hear you, I just don't have any idea what to do differently Bdale> on this specific issue in response to knowing how you feel B

Re: Bug #741573:Process Approach vs Others

2015-05-27 Thread Bdale Garbee
Sam Hartman writes: > I would like to be heard and understood ... > I hear Bdale's frustration when he talks about how long this has been > going on, and the concerns he raised about having to dig through the > entire history. > > For me, honoring the work of the debian-policy team is important

Bug #741573:Process Approach vs Others

2015-05-27 Thread Sam Hartman
Hi. During the conversation of #741573 last meeting, and while reading the log, I felt really frustrated and disappointed. I would like to be heard and understood, and when I read what Bdale and Don are saying, I don't think that they are connecting with some issues that are really important to