Hello,
On Tue 06 Aug 2024 at 11:45pm +01, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> It's just a bunch of emails. I have no idea where that is coming from,
> because it's certainly not the intention. Your guess about languages
> is probably accurate.
Your use of English suggests to me you have native or near-native
Hello,
On Tue 06 Aug 2024 at 05:42pm +02, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> I kindly ask you to stop posting to this bug and mailing list for at
> least 24h from now. Multiple participants have asked you to improve the
> way you interact. I am not seeing such improvement and remind you of the
> Debian Code
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 20:53, Marc Haber wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am in favor of your request.
>
> On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 05:28:57PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 16:43, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > > I kindly ask you to stop posting to this bug and mailing list for at
> > > least
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 17:55:23 +0200 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
- Gioele's message is about reimplementing lsb_release in terms of
os-release.
Not really. lsb_release has already been reimplemented purely in terms
of os-release since bookworm. Even the older Python version used
os-release as the
Hi,
I am in favor of your request.
On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 05:28:57PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 16:43, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > I kindly ask you to stop posting to this bug and mailing list for at
> > least 24h from now. Multiple participants have asked you to improve t
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 16:55, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 03:16:49PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 15:00, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > The question is:
> > >
> > > what is, exactly, the problem that the os-release specification is
> > > supposed t
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 16:43, Helmut Grohne wrote:
>
> Hi Luca,
>
> I kindly ask you to stop posting to this bug and mailing list for at
> least 24h from now. Multiple participants have asked you to improve the
> way you interact. I am not seeing such improvement and remind you of the
> Debian Code
On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 03:16:49PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 15:00, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > The question is:
> >
> > what is, exactly, the problem that the os-release specification is
> > supposed to solve? And how does unstable and testing being
> > undistinguis
Hi Luca,
I kindly ask you to stop posting to this bug and mailing list for at
least 24h from now. Multiple participants have asked you to improve the
way you interact. I am not seeing such improvement and remind you of the
Debian Code of Conduct available at
https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct.
Hi,
On 06/08/2024 13:33, Sean Whitton wrote:
=
BEGIN BALLOT
The Technical Committee declines to overrule the maintainer of
base-files, or issue any advice on issues concerning /etc/os-release.
We do not think there is a clear proposal on the table for us to assess,
and we do not think it
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 15:00, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 10:11:05AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 09:03, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > On Sun, Aug 04, 2024 at 07:44:29PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > > > That would make it contradictory with itself
On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 10:11:05AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 09:03, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 04, 2024 at 07:44:29PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > > That would make it contradictory with itself and everything else that
> > > uses it, so it's not a change th
Hello,
On Tue 06 Aug 2024 at 01:53pm +01, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> Seriously? In https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1077764#368
> you say that you could rule on the general statement rather than a
> specific implementation, then I answer "I'd prefer that if it was
> possible", and th
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 13:36, Sean Whitton wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I call for votes on the following:
>
> =
> BEGIN BALLOT
>
> The Technical Committee declines to overrule the maintainer of
> base-files, or issue any advice on issues concerning /etc/os-release.
>
> We do not think there is a clea
On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 08:33:39PM +0800, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I call for votes on the following:
>
> =
> BEGIN BALLOT
>
> The Technical Committee declines to overrule the maintainer of
> base-files, or issue any advice on issues concerning /etc/os-release.
>
> We do not think t
[resending signed]
On Tue 06 Aug 2024 at 08:33pm +08, Sean Whitton wrote:
> =
> BEGIN BALLOT
>
> The Technical Committee declines to overrule the maintainer of
> base-files, or issue any advice on issues concerning /etc/os-release.
>
> We do not think there is a clear proposal on the table fo
On Tue 06 Aug 2024 at 08:33pm +08, Sean Whitton wrote:
> =
> BEGIN BALLOT
>
> The Technical Committee declines to overrule the maintainer of
> base-files, or issue any advice on issues concerning /etc/os-release.
>
> We do not think there is a clear proposal on the table for us to assess,
> an
Hello,
I call for votes on the following:
=
BEGIN BALLOT
The Technical Committee declines to overrule the maintainer of
base-files, or issue any advice on issues concerning /etc/os-release.
We do not think there is a clear proposal on the table for us to assess,
and we do not think it is ap
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:40, Matthew Vernon wrote:
>
> On 06/08/2024 11:22, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:10, Matthew Vernon wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 06/08/2024 10:42, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is not a hard technical problem with no known solution that we
On 06/08/2024 11:22, Luca Boccassi wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:10, Matthew Vernon wrote:
Hi,
On 06/08/2024 10:42, Luca Boccassi wrote:
This is not a hard technical problem with no known solution that we
are asking for design guidance on. This is a trivial technical
problem with a hard s
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:37, Helmut Grohne wrote:
>
> Hi Luca,
>
> On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 10:42:28AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > that matters. This is not a hard technical problem with no known
> > solution that we are asking for design guidance on. This is a trivial
> > technical problem wit
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:26, Matthew Vernon wrote:
>
> On 06/08/2024 11:22, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:10, Matthew Vernon
> > wrote:
>
> >> The policy question of "should testing and unstable be
> >> differentiated by os-release" isn't straightforward, and there
> >> isn't
Hi Luca,
On Tue, Aug 06, 2024 at 10:42:28AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> that matters. This is not a hard technical problem with no known
> solution that we are asking for design guidance on. This is a trivial
> technical problem with a hard social conflict at its core. What we are
That's actual
On 06/08/2024 11:22, Luca Boccassi wrote:
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:10, Matthew Vernon
wrote:
The policy question of "should testing and unstable be
differentiated by os-release" isn't straightforward, and there
isn't consensus that the answer should be "yes", as you would like
it to be.
De
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 11:10, Matthew Vernon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 06/08/2024 10:42, Luca Boccassi wrote:
>
> > This is not a hard technical problem with no known solution that we
> > are asking for design guidance on. This is a trivial technical
> > problem with a hard social conflict at its core.
Hi,
On 06/08/2024 10:42, Luca Boccassi wrote:
This is not a hard technical problem with no known solution that we
are asking for design guidance on. This is a trivial technical
problem with a hard social conflict at its core. What we are really
blocked on is that the current owner of os-release
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 04:12, Sean Whitton wrote:
>
> Hello Gioele,
>
> On Mon 05 Aug 2024 at 08:34am +02, Gioele Barabucci wrote:
> > Couldn't the CTTE just rule on the question:
> >
> > * should Debian provide a way to distinguish between the two
> > similar-but-not-identical, rolling, ephemeral
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 09:03, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 04, 2024 at 07:44:29PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 at 19:08, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 04:15:36PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 at 21:29, Helmut Gro
On Sun, Aug 04, 2024 at 07:44:29PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 at 19:08, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 04:15:36PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 at 21:29, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > > > > 2) Testing and unstable can continue to rem
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