Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports

2017-09-27 Thread Keith Packard
Ian Jackson writes: > But I should be able to use the same laptop to (1) control my machine > tools or talk to my rpi or whatever (2) go online with a usb mobile > modem when I'm out of the house. Possibly even simultaneously. That requires fixing the package instead of just getting it out of t

Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports

2017-09-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Keith Packard writes ("Re: Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports"): > Yeah, I was just thinking that it would be easier to stop installing > support for modems by default than to actually fix modemmanager to > behave itself. It's certainly how I work -- apt remove mo

Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports

2017-09-27 Thread Keith Packard
Ian Jackson writes: > Also, AIUI modemmanager contains code to do things with the new-style > MBIM dongles (which can also be done with the cli tools in > mbim-utils). But I definitely wouldn't suggest disabling its ability > to work with AT-command modems, as they are still being sold.[1] Yeah

Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports

2017-09-27 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 02:13:50PM -0700, Keith Packard wrote: > Ian Jackson writes: > > (speaking as a Debian user, not as a TC member) > > > I'm afraid don't really want to do the work of writing a better UI. > > But I have provided a simple patch which at least makes the behaviour > > safe. >

Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports

2017-09-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Ansgar Burchardt writes ("Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports"): > It's not useless. At least not when using UMTS via USB dongles which I > would guess more people use than ham radio. (Some of these USB dongles > also emulate network cards and provide a DHCP serv

Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports

2017-09-27 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
"Keith Packard" writes: > Ian Jackson writes: > > (speaking as a Debian user, not as a TC member) > >> I'm afraid don't really want to do the work of writing a better UI. >> But I have provided a simple patch which at least makes the behaviour >> safe. > > Would it be sufficient to simply stop ins

Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports

2017-09-27 Thread Keith Packard
Ian Jackson writes: (speaking as a Debian user, not as a TC member) > I'm afraid don't really want to do the work of writing a better UI. > But I have provided a simple patch which at least makes the behaviour > safe. Would it be sufficient to simply stop installing this largely-useless package

Bug#877024: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports

2017-09-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: tech-ctte Control: block 683839 by -1 modemmanager is a program for handling modems, particularly usb-connected mobile-telephony modems (aka "3G/4G sticks" etc.) Many such modems present as USB serial devices, eg ttyACM or ttyUSB. Consequently, modemmanager has the ability to open serial

Processed: modemmanager should ask before messing with serial ports

2017-09-27 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > block 683839 by -1 Bug #683839 [modemmanager] modemmanager fiddles with ttyUSB devices without asking first 683839 was not blocked by any bugs. 683839 was not blocking any bugs. Added blocking bug(s) of 683839: 877024 -- 683839: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bug