On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 10:19:42PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Agreed. Traditionally, however, Unix has not been in the practice of
> being easy to use. We should be careful, not hidebound.
That depends.
Once upon a time, security wasn't much of an issue, and ease of use for
the casual user was
> "Manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Manoj> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:15:00 -0500 (EST), Sam Hartman
Manoj> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
Manoj> It seems to me that this ought to be local policy. Can
Manoj> you explain to me how the proposed solutions take si
On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 02:38:04PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> This is largely orthogonal to the current issue, but it would be nice if
> d-i had a 'select machine type' option where people could select between
> 'private machine on private network', 'shared machine with trusted
> users', 'sha
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Hartman) writes:
> The problem is fairly simple. Some of our users actually want to use
> their systems once they get it installed.
;-)
> Perhaps when Debian and the FHS originally made this decision, users
> could be expected to simply add themselves to groups if they n
On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 02:38:04PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> This is largely orthogonal to the current issue, but it would be nice if
> d-i had a 'select machine type' option where people could select between
> 'private machine on private network', 'shared machine with trusted
> users', 'sha
Previously Raul Miller wrote:
> However, it would probably be a good idea to give the people who have
> security concerns an easy way of avoiding this solution when building
> large sets of machines.
This is largely orthogonal to the current issue, but it would be nice if
d-i had a 'select machine
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:15:00 -0500 (EST), Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> The proposal in bug #166718 and the bugs merged with it is for the
> initial user to be added to some set of groups. Karl does not like
> this proposal because it only solves the problem for the initial
> user. Tha
Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Traditionally, UNIX has not been in the practice of
> automatically adding users to groups, and I think we need to be
> careful if we decide to break from universal practice.
A problem is that is simply isn't possible to do it securely currently,
which
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 14:15:00 -0500 (EST), Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> The problem is fairly simple. Some of our users actually want to
> use their systems once they get it installed. Particularly, they'd
> like to be able to do things like play sound, access their floppy
> drives an
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