ts!
I didn't know that until just now, hence my previous insistence on runniong
bootstrap-vz in a ec2 environment.
This is definitely something we could support in bootstrap-vz.
p.s.: Explicitly CC'ed Tiago and James to get their attention and input on
this, though maybe it should be in another thread
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>
>
> Thanks,
> RIchard
>
>
> Out of interest: If you run the same build ten times, will you always
have the same binary output?
You got last modified timestamps on files etc., so no :-)
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; systems,
> > I don't know the answer, but I think we can cross that bridge when we
> > come to it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Brian
> >
> >>> 4) Documentation? Is it enough to just put it in wiki.d.o, in the cloud
> >>> section?
> >> started on https://wiki.debian.org/MicrosoftAzure.
> >>
> >>> Other questions:
> >>>
> >>> 1) bootstrap-vz is used to build the AWS and GCE images. bootstrap-vz
> has
> >>> also had support for Azure for at least two years. Is there a reason
> the
> >>> same tool wasn't used?
> >>
> >> The answer to this is quite simple: At the time we started to create
> images for
> >> Azure, bootstrap-vz was not in shape for generating Azure images that
> worked.
> >> For the demonstration purpose during DebConf15 we needed an image and
> Thomas
> >> openstack-debian-images script generated an image that was more or less
> out of
> >> the box usable for Azure. So we continued to use that script. Long term
> we plan
> >> to support both scripts.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Martin
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>
Just my 5 cents:
> "Official mirrors" shouldn't contain differences to debian.org
repositories. Otherwise they should be named "Debian based" too.
Isn't that what we have GPG package signatures for? In the end, the real
showstopper would be the installation of public keys that are not
controlled by Debian. As long as I know that the only keys software is
verified with are official Debian ones I couldn't care less where I get my
"data" from - or at least that's how I think it should be, I am not
pretending to know the official stance on this.
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les which checksums vary, it would be good to provide their list
and an explanation on why they vary, although it is not a stict
requirement.
Remember logfiles, they have the same problem with timestamps. Though tbh
we do our best with bootstrap-vz to not leave anything behind from the
bootstrapping process, so it shouldn't be a problem.
> - the content of the files created may differ;
I think you mean "may *not* differ"...?
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XZ. :-)
>
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>
>
Niiice! I am sure that removes a lot of your headaches ;-)
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t it would be a great idea to create a wikipage where all those
deviations from standard debootstrap are documented!
Luckily the architecture of bootstrap-vz works in a way where you have
small tasks that do one thing only (with descriptions to boot!).
When running `./bootstrap-vz --dry-run
manifests/official/ec2/ebs-jessie-amd64-hvm.yml --log - --debug`, you get
this <https://gist.github.com/andsens/30ba30882e7098fd8c9c20ce13d3161e>.
You can almost take that log and convert it into a document, it contains
the full list of changes to an image :-)
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available so we can discus this in real time.
>
> I'm hoping for that too; I've just added information to the proposal
> to say so explicitly.
>
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