Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 05:46:26PM +, Simon McVittie wrote: >... > I think it's necessary to consider what the purpose of the i386 port is, > and set expectations and an appropriate baseline based on that. > > I see two possible use-cases for i386: > > 1. It's a compatibility layer for legacy

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-12 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 at 18:09:02 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > 3. Computers that do support MMX and SSE2, but do not support 64bit. Right, that's basically the second use-case I mentioned, but moving the boundary for what we do and don't support to be more modern. We could put the boundary anywhere w

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-12 Thread peter green
Then there was the short netbook boom, but AFAIR some early ones had 64bit CPUs but 32bit-only firmware. My memory is that at the height of the boom the dominant processors were the N270 and N280, which are 32-bit only. By the time 64-bit netbook processors showed up the boom was on the dec

Re: Release status of i386 for Bullseye and long term support for 3 years?

2020-12-12 Thread Calum McConnell
Hi all, As someone who runs amd64/i386 multiarch, this statement from Adrian: > i386 hardware is so numerous and widely spread, that every tiny fraction > of i386 users might be more users than half of our release architectures > combined. It is not even clear whether this is just an exaggeration