Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-13 Thread Philipp Kern
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 02:06:25AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > Also if udeb:s are going to be using xz then it makes even more sense to use > it for everything. µdebs won't use the xz default, though. (The compression for them will be handled in debhelper.) With the compression scheme I posted

Re: [DRAFT] Debian Installer Wheezy Alpha1 release

2012-05-13 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 21:50:44 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > * Linux kernel installation fails on old x86 processors (earlier >than 686, or 686 without PAE) (#672611). Should just be 686 without PAE I think, older CPUs would get the 486 flavour, not 686. Cheers, Julien signature.asc D

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hey folks, > > Remembering the fun that we had during the Squeeze release with trying > to make single-CD installations work well, it's time to consider what > we're going to *claim* to support in Wheezy. We've had a history of > supporting

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 13 May 2012 18:36:09 -0400 Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Hey folks, > > > > Remembering the fun that we had during the Squeeze release with trying > > to make single-CD installations work well, it's time to consider what > > we're goi

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-13 Thread Joey Hess
Neil Williams wrote: > "supporting only the smaller/lighter desktop environments" is exactly > what comes out of accepting that the first two options just won't be > acceptable. Changing compression is only putting off the inevitable. > There's *no* reason to think that GNOME or KDE are going to ge

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 14, Neil Williams wrote: > I'd support XFCE4 as the default Graphical Desktop Environment and > possibly putting GNOME (and KDE) as alternative options. What is the point of providing a default which is not what people usually want? Just document that a normal desktop install will require

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-13 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Dom 13 May 2012 21:40:10 Marco d'Itri escribió: [snip] > Does anybody actually know that people routinely try to install desktop > systems with only a CD and no networking, and why? > What is the use case for this? Cheap DVD readers have been around for > over 10 years now. Actually, I was goin

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-13 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Joey Hess, le Sun 13 May 2012 20:39:20 -0400, a écrit : > Neil Williams wrote: > > "supporting only the smaller/lighter desktop environments" is exactly > > what comes out of accepting that the first two options just won't be > > acceptable. Changing compression is only putting off the inev

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-13 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-05-13 at 10:26pm, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > On Dom 13 May 2012 21:40:10 Marco d'Itri escribió: > [snip] > > Does anybody actually know that people routinely try to install desktop > > systems with only a CD and no networking, and why? > > What is the use case for this? Chea