Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Dienstag, 18. März 2008 00:54:14 schrieben Sie: > On Mar 17, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Uwe Bugla wrote: > > My other question was: > > Are blank CDs with 650 MB still sold or not? > > In Germany they aren't. How about other countries in that world? > > > > Perhaps someone reading that could answer me th

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Dienstag, 18. März 2008 00:29:22 schrieb Richard Atterer: > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 09:17:03PM +0100, Uwe Bugla wrote: > [Uh - huge quote snipped. If you want people to read what you wrote, don't > precede it with screens of other text...] > > > b. jigdo uses only a small amount of specialized d

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Dirk Neumann
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:23:13 +0100 Uwe Bugla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Dienstag, 18. März 2008 00:29:22 schrieb Richard Atterer: > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 09:17:03PM +0100, Uwe Bugla wrote: > > [Uh - huge quote snipped. If you want people to read what you wrote, don't > > precede it with s

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Anthony Towns wrote: > I guess there's an inequality like: > > images on mirrors <= images on torrents <= images via jigdo Is there any way we can construct the torrent image on the fly from the jigdo file? [That is, transform the packages that make up bits x<->y into w

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Anthony Towns wrote: I guess there's an inequality like: images on mirrors <= images on torrents <= images via jigdo Is there any way we can construct the torrent image on the fly from the jigdo file? [That is, transform

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Richard Atterer
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 08:23:13AM +0100, Uwe Bugla wrote: > Am Dienstag, 18. März 2008 00:29:22 schrieb Richard Atterer: > > ?? Not quite sure what you mean. Basically, it uses .jigdo and > > .template files as a "recipe" to build an ISO image from downloaded regular > > .deb packages. [...] > My

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:32:29AM +0100, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: >On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Don Armstrong wrote: > >>On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Anthony Towns wrote: >>>I guess there's an inequality like: >>> >>> images on mirrors <= images on torrents <= images via jigdo >> >>Is there any way we can co

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 02:21:45AM -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > I guess there's an inequality like: > > > > > > images on mirrors <= images on torrents <= images via jigdo > > > >

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 02:21:45AM -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I guess there's an inequality like: > > > > images on mirrors <= images on torrents <= images via jigdo > > Is there any way we can construct the torrent image o

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Richard Atterer
[Followups set to debian-cd] > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:32:29AM +0100, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: > >It would also be useful for me who runs the main cd torrent seeder in > >that I could just have an up-to-date debian archive and snapshot (minor > >rsync update), instead of syncing 300+ gigs of

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Francois Petillon
Uwe Bugla wrote: [when answering a mail, please remove all uneeded quotes] There is one basic error / misunderstanding in this last paragraph: a. If you use ftp (file transfer protocol) or even http (hypertext transfer protocol) the image is being treated like one big portion. If download is goi

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Caeles
Sorry for breaking threads, I am not subscribed. So please cc. I am speaking as a mere user. It is often suggested to reduce some form of availability to only the first n of all images. I do not find that convincing. Generally, I install only the stuff I find useful, which is a scarce subset of

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Richard Atterer wrote: [Followups set to debian-cd] On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:32:29AM +0100, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: It would also be useful for me who runs the main cd torrent seeder in that I could just have an up-to-date debian archive and snapshot (minor rsync upda

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Owen Townend
On 18/03/2008, Mattias Wadenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Anthony Towns wrote: > >> I guess there's an inequality like: > >> > >> images on mirrors <= images on torrents <= images via jigdo > > > > Is there any way we

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 02:21:45AM -0700, Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Anthony Towns wrote: > > I guess there's an inequality like: > > > > images on mirrors <= images on torrents <= images via jigdo > > Is there any way we can construct the torr

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Uwe Bugla
Am Dienstag, 18. März 2008 10:30:09 schrieb Richard Atterer: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 08:23:13AM +0100, Uwe Bugla wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 18. März 2008 00:29:22 schrieb Richard Atterer: > > > ?? Not quite sure what you mean. Basically, it uses .jigdo and > > > .template files as a "recipe" to buil

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Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Philip Charles
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Uwe Bugla wrote: > In practice this procedure may be appropriate downloading CDROM ISO > images. But downloading DVDROM images that way is too risky IMHO. I do not have problems downloading DVD iso's, and I have downloaded and burnt a large number of these, fault

Bug#443991: marked as done (installation-reports)

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Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Richard Atterer
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:14:50AM +1300, Philip Charles wrote: > Note the previous comments by some mirror masters, Jigdo loads their > systems more than a normal download. To be fair, Mattias and Attila are/were the admins of the _primary_ ISO image mirrors. For a typical Debian package mirror

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Paul Cager dijo [Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 12:29:04AM +]: > [...] > > 1. Is it worth making full sets of CDs at all? Can we rely on people > >having a net connection or being able to use DVDs if they want > >*everything*? > > 2. Is it worth producing all the CDs/DVDs/whatever for all the > >

Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

2008-03-18 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Anthony Towns dijo [Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 03:39:05PM +1000]: > (...) > and the real question is where you say "if you really want the 23rd CD > for mipsel, you're probably smart/dedicated enough to use jigdo". I completely agree with this. I don't think we must carry every CD for every arch forever