Hello
I had a fright looking at the consultant rates, and
so if your advice is free, I would appreciate help with installing from a 3
cds'
I have partly installed Debian 3, but have
forgotten the password, and so I reformatted with a view to starting all over,
but keep coming back to the pas
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 07:49:48AM +0100, John Winters wrote:
> Further suggestion then - could an un-gzipped version be made available
> by rsync *only*.
It should be possible to use jigdo-file's "-0" switch to switch off
compression. I /guess/ that would make the files rsyncable.
> The changes
Richard Atterer wrote:
The changes from week to week can only be small and it would make sense
to rsync the differences and re-build the files rather than re-download
what can be a very big file. (Some of the later ones from fsn.hu have
been 90M for just one (gzipped) .template file.)
I wonder why
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 12:11, Attila Nagy wrote:
> Richard Atterer wrote:
> >>The changes from week to week can only be small and it would make sense
> >>to rsync the differences and re-build the files rather than re-download
> >>what can be a very big file. (Some of the later ones from fsn.hu have
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 08:18:32PM +1000, jimdene wrote:
> I had a fright looking at the consultant rates, and so if your advice is free,
Yep, it is. :-) However, direct further questions to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - this list (debian-cd) is more concerned with
the creation of CD images.
Maybe also che
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Richard Atterer wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 04:58:09PM +0100, John Winters wrote:
> > I sell (amongst lots of other things) CDs of Debian Woody and testing
> > snapshots of Sarge. Currently it appears that the only way one can
> > download the official .jigdo files for u
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Attila Nagy wrote:
> Richard Atterer wrote:
> >>The changes from week to week can only be small and it would make sense
> >>to rsync the differences and re-build the files rather than re-download
> >>what can be a very big file. (Some of the later ones from fsn.hu have
> >>be
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 06:24:04AM +0200, Peter Mann wrote:
> > Who/what decides what packages go onto it?
>
> How about "Press any key if you want boot from CD" for about 3
> seconds ???
>
> This is IMHO good function, if I forget CD media in machine with bios setting
> for boot from cd-rom firs
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 02:42:28AM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
> > I don't get it. The debian-installer stuff is neatly all listed in the
> > tasks/debian-installer file -- and yet the above ones are missing.
>
> Are you sure they did not end up in the image? It is conceivable that for
> some re
John Winters wrote:
Ah good. I'm glad they've come down again. I moved away from using the
files from fsn.hu because a) they got so big and b) they couldn't be
used to create .isos - they referenced files which weren't available on
any mirror, not even fsn.hu. Perhaps something had gone wrong wi
Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
The jigdo directories went up to 10+ gigs and we had to stop mirroring for
a while (the debian main archive is kind of more important to us). Is this
problem fixed now?
find . -name jigdo -exec du -hs {} \;
874M./sarge/jigdo
484M./sarge-dvd/jigdo
872M./sid/jigd
Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
And mirrors would like to use rsync even if the rsync algorithm doesn't
matter. It is a convenient and well-known tool for mirroring a directory
structure, including all the metadata and stuff.
If we wouldn't talk about Linux I would suggest forget rsync. It's very
bad in
Josip Rodin wrote:
Ohh. Hmm. And just as I rm'ed the generated .iso I had mounted to see if the
image was all right (and under 650 MB -- it was 641). Oh well, I'll do it
again.
Just a quick question: in Hungary it is impossible to buy a 74 minutes
writable CD (650 MB) even in CD-RW version. The "d
Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look at it. It still doesn't change the
fact that rsync is the well-known tool by mirror admins though.
The only problem is that cvsup is written in Modula-3, so it's not quite
in perl or C :)
http://www.cvsup.org/
--
Attila Nagy
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 09:29:34PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote:
> >Ohh. Hmm. And just as I rm'ed the generated .iso I had mounted to see if
> >the image was all right (and under 650 MB -- it was 641). Oh well, I'll
> >do it again.
BTW, that worked out. The files are there.
> Just a quick question: i
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Attila Nagy wrote:
> Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> > And mirrors would like to use rsync even if the rsync algorithm doesn't
> > matter. It is a convenient and well-known tool for mirroring a directory
> > structure, including all the metadata and stuff.
> If we wouldn't talk ab
Josip Rodin wrote:
I bought some 650 MB CD-RWs a few months back, FWIW. I guess there's not
much reason to scramble with those extra 50 MB, you can hardly save one in
the set by making them all 700 MB.
It seems that you are wrong :)
-rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 674594816 Jul 20 13:17 sid-i386-1.iso
-
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Just a quick question: in Hungary it is impossible to buy a 74 minutes
>writable CD (650 MB) even in CD-RW version. The "default" is now 700
>MB/80 min. with strange capacities emerging (like the 1 GB CD-R, I don't
>know how well can one
Blars Blarson wrote:
In the US (or at least southern california) 650 MB cd-r's are about
half the price and more widly available than 700 MB ones. (About
Interesting. I thought if we (in Hungary) can buy only 700 MB CD-Rs then
the rest of the world now uses at least DVDs :)
But selling only 700
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:13:35PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote:
> >I bought some 650 MB CD-RWs a few months back, FWIW. I guess there's not
> >much reason to scramble with those extra 50 MB, you can hardly save one in
> >the set by making them all 700 MB.
> It seems that you are wrong :)
>
> 10*50 MB
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Attila Nagy wrote:
> Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> > Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look at it. It still doesn't change the
> > fact that rsync is the well-known tool by mirror admins though.
> The only problem is that cvsup is written in Modula-3, so it's not quite
> in perl o
At 21:29 25/07/2003 +0200, Attila Nagy wrote:
Josip Rodin wrote:
Ohh. Hmm. And just as I rm'ed the generated .iso I had mounted to see if the
image was all right (and under 650 MB -- it was 641). Oh well, I'll do it
again.
Just a quick question: in Hungary it is impossible to buy a 74 minutes
writ
Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
Oh, well. There exists a debian package. So for some of our mirrors it
shouldn't be much of a problem. But I guess that rsync will be the
standard way for some more years.
I didn't even know that cvsup exists in Debian. That's great.
BTW, cvsup uses rsync for transferring
Rafael Poveda ..:: [ RaveN ] ::.. wrote:
I think it's Debian's policy. Debian is for everybody. It's open. It's
free. And everybody can read a 650 MB CD (It doesn't mind if they have a
last-generation DVD or a 2x CD-ROM). And you can write it in a 700MB
CD-R (or bigger).
6 o 7 cd-pack? It doesn'
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 01:35, Richard Atterer wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 04:58:09PM +0100, John Winters wrote:
> > I sell (amongst lots of other things) CDs of Debian Woody and testing
> > snapshots of Sarge. Currently it appears that the only way one can
> > download the official .jigdo file
Hello
I had a fright looking at the consultant rates, and
so if your advice is free, I would appreciate help with installing from a 3
cds'
I have partly installed Debian 3, but have
forgotten the password, and so I reformatted with a view to starting all over,
but keep coming back to the pas
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 07:49:48AM +0100, John Winters wrote:
> Further suggestion then - could an un-gzipped version be made available
> by rsync *only*.
It should be possible to use jigdo-file's "-0" switch to switch off
compression. I /guess/ that would make the files rsyncable.
> The changes
Richard Atterer wrote:
The changes from week to week can only be small and it would make sense
to rsync the differences and re-build the files rather than re-download
what can be a very big file. (Some of the later ones from fsn.hu have
been 90M for just one (gzipped) .template file.)
I wonder why
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 12:11, Attila Nagy wrote:
> Richard Atterer wrote:
> >>The changes from week to week can only be small and it would make sense
> >>to rsync the differences and re-build the files rather than re-download
> >>what can be a very big file. (Some of the later ones from fsn.hu have
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 08:18:32PM +1000, jimdene wrote:
> I had a fright looking at the consultant rates, and so if your advice is free,
Yep, it is. :-) However, direct further questions to
debian-user@lists.debian.org - this list (debian-cd) is more concerned with
the creation of CD images.
May
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Richard Atterer wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 04:58:09PM +0100, John Winters wrote:
> > I sell (amongst lots of other things) CDs of Debian Woody and testing
> > snapshots of Sarge. Currently it appears that the only way one can
> > download the official .jigdo files for u
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Attila Nagy wrote:
> Richard Atterer wrote:
> >>The changes from week to week can only be small and it would make sense
> >>to rsync the differences and re-build the files rather than re-download
> >>what can be a very big file. (Some of the later ones from fsn.hu have
> >>be
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 06:24:04AM +0200, Peter Mann wrote:
> > Who/what decides what packages go onto it?
>
> How about "Press any key if you want boot from CD" for about 3
> seconds ???
>
> This is IMHO good function, if I forget CD media in machine with bios setting
> for boot from cd-rom firs
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 02:42:28AM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote:
> > I don't get it. The debian-installer stuff is neatly all listed in the
> > tasks/debian-installer file -- and yet the above ones are missing.
>
> Are you sure they did not end up in the image? It is conceivable that for
> some re
John Winters wrote:
Ah good. I'm glad they've come down again. I moved away from using the
files from fsn.hu because a) they got so big and b) they couldn't be
used to create .isos - they referenced files which weren't available on
any mirror, not even fsn.hu. Perhaps something had gone wrong wi
Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
The jigdo directories went up to 10+ gigs and we had to stop mirroring for
a while (the debian main archive is kind of more important to us). Is this
problem fixed now?
find . -name jigdo -exec du -hs {} \;
874M./sarge/jigdo
484M./sarge-dvd/jigdo
872M./sid/jigd
Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
And mirrors would like to use rsync even if the rsync algorithm doesn't
matter. It is a convenient and well-known tool for mirroring a directory
structure, including all the metadata and stuff.
If we wouldn't talk about Linux I would suggest forget rsync. It's very
bad in
Josip Rodin wrote:
Ohh. Hmm. And just as I rm'ed the generated .iso I had mounted to see if the
image was all right (and under 650 MB -- it was 641). Oh well, I'll do it
again.
Just a quick question: in Hungary it is impossible to buy a 74 minutes
writable CD (650 MB) even in CD-RW version. The "d
Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look at it. It still doesn't change the
fact that rsync is the well-known tool by mirror admins though.
The only problem is that cvsup is written in Modula-3, so it's not quite
in perl or C :)
http://www.cvsup.org/
--
Attila Nagy
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 09:29:34PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote:
> >Ohh. Hmm. And just as I rm'ed the generated .iso I had mounted to see if
> >the image was all right (and under 650 MB -- it was 641). Oh well, I'll
> >do it again.
BTW, that worked out. The files are there.
> Just a quick question: i
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Attila Nagy wrote:
> Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> > And mirrors would like to use rsync even if the rsync algorithm doesn't
> > matter. It is a convenient and well-known tool for mirroring a directory
> > structure, including all the metadata and stuff.
> If we wouldn't talk ab
Josip Rodin wrote:
I bought some 650 MB CD-RWs a few months back, FWIW. I guess there's not
much reason to scramble with those extra 50 MB, you can hardly save one in
the set by making them all 700 MB.
It seems that you are wrong :)
-rw-r--r-- 1 1001 1001 674594816 Jul 20 13:17 sid-i386-1.iso
-r
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>Just a quick question: in Hungary it is impossible to buy a 74 minutes
>writable CD (650 MB) even in CD-RW version. The "default" is now 700
>MB/80 min. with strange capacities emerging (like the 1 GB CD-R, I don't
>know how well can one
Blars Blarson wrote:
In the US (or at least southern california) 650 MB cd-r's are about
half the price and more widly available than 700 MB ones. (About
Interesting. I thought if we (in Hungary) can buy only 700 MB CD-Rs then
the rest of the world now uses at least DVDs :)
But selling only 700
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:13:35PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote:
> >I bought some 650 MB CD-RWs a few months back, FWIW. I guess there's not
> >much reason to scramble with those extra 50 MB, you can hardly save one in
> >the set by making them all 700 MB.
> It seems that you are wrong :)
>
> 10*50 MB
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Attila Nagy wrote:
> Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> > Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look at it. It still doesn't change the
> > fact that rsync is the well-known tool by mirror admins though.
> The only problem is that cvsup is written in Modula-3, so it's not quite
> in perl o
At 21:29 25/07/2003 +0200, Attila Nagy wrote:
Josip Rodin wrote:
Ohh. Hmm. And just as I rm'ed the generated .iso I had mounted to see if the
image was all right (and under 650 MB -- it was 641). Oh well, I'll do it
again.
Just a quick question: in Hungary it is impossible to buy a 74 minutes
writ
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