Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-07-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 10:36:15PM +0200, Attila Nagy écrivait: > > Just put again the secured stuff in the Makefile. If you really wanna > > get rid off the secured tree, remove it manually before launching make > > images (ie run manually make bootable and make upgrade before and just > > after

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-07-02 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, > Yes, but the other people don't remove stuff from the Makefile, in > particular they leave the "secured" stuff which apart from setting up > the secured tree, does also correct the Release file ... I see. > Just put again the secured stuff in the Makefile. If you really wanna > get rid

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-07-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 07:49:56PM +0200, Attila Nagy écrivait: > does scanpackages produce empty (without the md5sums and filenames) > Release files for the other people too? Yes, but the other people don't remove stuff from the Makefile, in particular they leave the "secured" stuff which apart

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-07-02 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, > debootstrap uses the Packages file to locate packages, is the Packages > file present? is it also properly refernced in the Release file? > debootstrap uses the Release file to find the Packages file. The Packages file is present, the problem seems to be the Release file. What is the ex

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-07-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:44:35PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > So how could I figure out what the problem is when the installer drops me > > out with "can't download adduser"? strace the process? > well debootstrap is a shell script, what i would suggest is looking at > the command line that db

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-07-01 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 08:11:12PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: > Hello, > > > unfortunatly it probably won't be. dbootstrap reads all of > > debootstrap's output and puts it into dialogs, you see pretty much the > > same thing both ways. checking tty3 is always a good idea though since > > dbootst

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-30 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 09:02:20PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: > Hello, > > > adduser is the first package debootstrap tries to fetch, so if things > > are borked from the start you always get a message `cannot download > > adduser' which can be a bit misleading in some circumstances. > I forgot to

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-30 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, > > . Does it? What's the layout exactly? > It should be so, Attila will confirm or infirm. The filelist is in my previous message, although it is a fairly old CD set (I will generate a new one next week, when I will have much more time). > However Attila told me that he removed the woody

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-30 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, > adduser is the first package debootstrap tries to fetch, so if things > are borked from the start you always get a message `cannot download > adduser' which can be a bit misleading in some circumstances. I forgot to run debootstrap manually, so next week I will try to do this, maybe it w

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-28 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 03:16:55PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:08:02AM -0800, Ethan Benson écrivait: > > its also possible that dbootstrap is broken, choose_medium.c is a > > giant rat hole... but from your log message the debootstrap > > invocation looks correct (C

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 04:08:02AM -0800, Ethan Benson écrivait: > its also possible that dbootstrap is broken, choose_medium.c is a > giant rat hole... but from your log message the debootstrap > invocation looks correct (CDs don't have the /debian directory do they?) Yes, they do. "debian" is

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-28 Thread Ethan Benson
On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:55:47PM +0200, Attila Nagy wrote: > Hello, > > > adduser is on the first CD, can someone confirm ? > Yes, in pool/a/adduser. adduser is the first package debootstrap tries to fetch, so if things are borked from the start you always get a message `cannot download adduse

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-28 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, > adduser is on the first CD, can someone confirm ? Yes, in pool/a/adduser. > And I guess that adduser is the first base package that debootstrap > tries to get, so it may not be related to debian-cd ... maybe > something totally different like nothing mounted on /instmnt ... Nope. The CD

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 12:30:31PM +0200, Attila Nagy écrivait: > user.info dbootstrap[138]: running '/usr/sbin/debootstrap --boot-floppies > woody /target file:/instmnt' > user.err dbootstrap[138]: Couldn't download adduser > > That's all. At this point it dies, I don't know how it could be inst

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-28 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, [again] > > > > The production is an uninstallable (from the menu at least) CD set... > > > What is exactly your problem ? > > Finding the adduser package. > This bug may be fixed. I recently committed a change to include all > packages requested by debootstrap on the first CD. However I

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am sitting at an intel machine. Right now, I have debootstrap installed, > I can make chroots and nfsroots for i386 boxes. Yay. > > Tell me the exact command to make a chroot for an ARM from my i386. 'reportbug debootstrap' -- .Adam Di [EMAI

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:59:38PM +1000, Timshel Knoll wrote: > Isn't `debootstrap --arch arm ' what you're > looking for? What makes you think that will ever have any chance at all of working, let alone works now? The --arch argument is there so (a) I can get rid of the stupid /usr/lib/deboot

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-17 Thread Timshel Knoll
On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:11:17PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 11:33:32AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > Tell me the exact command to make a chroot for an ARM from my i386. > > ssh some-arm-box debootstrap woody /nfs/i386/arm-chroot # :) > > Actually, you could maybe

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 11:33:32AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > Tell me the exact command to make a chroot for an ARM from my i386. ssh some-arm-box debootstrap woody /nfs/i386/arm-chroot # :) Actually, you could maybe do something like: * setup an NFS root that boots to the arm b-f'

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 12:24:27AM +0200, Attila Nagy écrivait: > AFAIK, I made the test with 2.3.4 and the latest debian-cd at that time, > so I will test again... > > > > The production is an uninstallable (from the menu at least) CD set... > > What is exactly your problem ? > Finding the addus

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-17 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, > Yes, and looks like it worked. With cvs debian-cd and boot disks > 2.3.5. Santiago Garcia Mantinan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did the test. AFAIK, I made the test with 2.3.4 and the latest debian-cd at that time, so I will test again... > > The production is an uninstallable (from the menu at

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 11:37:00PM +0200, Attila Nagy écrivait: > On a side note: did anybody try the boot disks on ftp.debian.org for woody > and debian-cd together? Yes, and looks like it worked. With cvs debian-cd and boot disks 2.3.5. Santiago Garcia Mantinan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did the test.

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-17 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, > There is no base tarball anymore. The functionality has been > superceeded by debootstrap (the package). FYI, what debootstrap does > is simply download (or get from CD) the packages in base at runtime. On a side note: did anybody try the boot disks on ftp.debian.org for woody and debia

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-17 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Debian's base*.tar is the *only* solution I know of for this that supports > the variety of platforms I am interested in, I know other people do the > same thing. This would be a very unfortunate loss to the people doing > embedded work with linux. Y

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-16 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Jun 17, 2001 at 12:06:21AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > This is trivially solvable by having .html files with links to all the > files that are required (or maybe if there are too many, a link to a tar > of the .debs). I expect this is easially producable in an automated way > from d

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-16 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sat, Jun 16, 2001 at 04:19:51PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > > Honestly, the best approach here is to hack debootstrap, say, with a > special arg, so that instead of building base, it constructs enough of > a local mirror so that you could install base. Of course, the > packages in base are

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-16 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 05:09:33PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > The base tarball is *very* useful for NFS root booting other > > architectures which I do alot, particularly when the NFS serving box is > > not a debian box. It is very nice to be able

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 02:41:01PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > i think as far as an implementation detail goes creating a tarball > containing /var/cache/apt/archives of the base/required packages then > teaching debootstrap to extract it there and use the packages would be > fairly easy. Actual

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-15 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 05:09:33PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On 15 Jun 2001, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > > > There is no base tarball anymore. The functionality has been > > superceeded by debootstrap (the package). > > Hrm. This is midely annoying to say the least :< > > The base tarball

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-15 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > i tend to agree, though there are some contrived cases where > installing via a base tarball without net access is useful. > > for example i have a very slow internet connection and several > machines, i would like to download the base tarball once an

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-15 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 02:41:01PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > but if aj wants base.tgz in all incarnations dead we shall have to > forgo hard disk and floppy installation methods. Why? The floppy and harddrive installation requires you to download images from a new connection. That being that

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 07:07:00PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 02:41:01PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > but if aj wants base.tgz in all incarnations dead we shall have to > > forgo hard disk and floppy installation methods. > > Why? The floppy and harddrive installation

Re: base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-15 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 02:31:14PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > > Why is this better? For one, it's going to be able to work with > debian-installer, for sid release, since boot-floppies is going away > in sid. For two, its better because we don't have to create another > boot-floppies release

base*.tgz is gone, and why it's gone

2001-06-15 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've been downloading these files for a test session, and I can't find the > base tarball. Where can I find this file? It is normally in the images > directories, but I can't find it. There is no base tarball anymore. The functionality has been superce