On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:23:57AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:53:01AM +0100, BubuXP wrote:
> > I found the cause (maybe).
> > Probably the fuzzy fonts are all OpenType fonts. Starting from
> > freetype 2.5.0.1, the Adobe CFF engine is the d
e-5
And here's SSH failing:
$ ssh joshtriplett.org
OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 1000105f, you have 10001060
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Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 14:02:37 -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
>> Package: libssl1.0.0
>> Version: 1.0.1e-5
>> Severity: critical
>>
>> Upgrading OpenSSL caused SSH to brea
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Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 02:16:43PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
>> Package: libssl1.0.0
>> Version: 1.0.1e-5
>> Followup-For: Bug #732940
>>
>> Julien Cristau wrote:
>> &
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Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 02:45:32PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
>>
>> It's not OK to break forward compatibility without changing SONAME.
>> Software built against an older version of
nd clearer and more
natural.
So, in summary, upon initial introduction, I found systemd's model far
more intuitive, both innately (in its use of socket activation and
similar mechanisms to *avoid* dependencies) and as a more natural
mapping to how the system, kernel, and hardware work.
I h
e init system that continues to create
functionality so useful that the proponents of upstart are willing to do
a huge amount of work in order to adopt most of it other than the init
system itself.
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systemd. That would then, for instance, unblock systemd's ability to
upgrade past version 204.)
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 01:07:22PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 01:16:32AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > Looking more closely, I find that one of the conflicting files is a
> > > conffile
> > > (/etc/dbus
On Sat, Jan 04, 2014 at 06:14:30PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> (Josh, is there some reason why you replied to the TC list directly
> rather than the bug report ? You should send your messages to the bug
> so they are filed, displayed and archived there. Thanks.)
I don't subscribe
ld make that possible, allowing
users to try out upstart by setting init= on the kernel command line,
and allowing packages to use upstart for purposes other than running it
as init (for instance, for graphical session startup).
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The manual page doesn't yet document the new -A option, or the
--playlist-start and --playlist-end options.
Thanks for packaging youtube-dl!
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for a proposal of "maintain sysvinit compatibility through jessie, and
support smooth upgrades", which ought to address the concerns that are
motivating your urgency in addressing this issue. Passing such a
resolution would then allow for a more prolonge
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:28:58AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Josh Triplett wrote:
> > If the goal here is to hide the boot messages by default, note that
> > the default kernel command line includes "quiet", which hides most
> > kernel messages and systemd message
exists even on non-systemd systems;
> it would be easy to populate from something like
> "sed s/-// /proc/sys/kernel/random/uuid" on Linux, and perhaps
> /dev/[u]random on non-Linux. Do you think that's a good idea?
> It would have the side-effect of resolving this bug.
e-id
>does not exist (my preferred solution), or
See above: /var is too late.
> * change dbus-1 to create a symlink of /var/lib/dbus/machine-id to
>/etc/machine-id, if /etc/machine-id does not already exist.
Likewise.
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On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 05:10:42PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 16:18 +0300, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Hi Ben,
> >
> > Ben Hutchings (2011-05-16):
> > > On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 17:17 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > > > Packag
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 05:45:29PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 09:30 -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 05:10:42PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 16:18 +0300, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > > > Hi Ben,
tomatically disable itself when use_lvmetad=1, which seems
like the right way to handle dynamic hardware detection in any
environment that lvmetad can handle (anything other than a multi-host
cluster, as far as I can tell).
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would simply be an unnecessary flicker.
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:28:58AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Josh Triplett wrote:
> > If the goal here is to hide the boot messages by default, note that
> > the default kernel command line includes "quiet", which hides most
> > kernel messages and systemd message
27;s a
consensus that the TC resolution needs to say something about this, and
in particular if none of the TC members favoring systemd would object to
voting for a resolution that included it, then I'd suggest something
closer to the above as a clear statement of *cooperation*, rather than a
demand that systemd conform to Debian (discounting the possibility that
Debian could ever change to adopt what might be better alternatives).
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On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 01:19:25PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Do you mean the options used within d-i itself, or on the installed
> > system?
>
> The latter; d-i does not run with systemd.
If Debian ends up adopting systemd as the default, that s
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 06:05:23PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Josh Triplett wrote:
> > > The latter; d-i does not run with systemd.
> >
> > If Debian ends up adopting systemd as the default, that seems likely to
> > change.
>
> Seems unlikely; I doubt tha
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:12:21PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
> Hi Josh,
>
> On 20.01.2014 02:07, Josh Triplett wrote:
> >If the goal here is to hide the boot messages by default, note that
> >the default kernel command line includes "quiet", which hides most
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:43:02AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Quietness on success has some significant advantages to justify not
> > disabling it
>
> Is quietness of success actually intended to be a default property of
> systemd? If a lot of
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 07:43:41PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
> On 21.01.2014 03:35, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > If splash were a non-default boot option, and plymouth did nothing
> > unless the kernel command line had that option, that seems entirely
> > reasonable. Very
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 01:34:18AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
> Hi Joey,
>
> On 20.01.2014 16:28, Joey Hess wrote:
> >Josh Triplett wrote:
> >>If the goal here is to hide the boot messages by default, note that
> >>the default kernel command line includes &qu
g as gdm and X don't need clamav-daemon.
> >>
> >>How can I achieve that?
> >>Currently it seems as if multi-user.target waits for exim4.service,
> >>which starts only after clamav-daemon.service is ready.
> >
> >Ieally, by uninstalling exim4 and clama
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 08:20:18AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Josh Triplett (2014-01-21):
> > In that case, to clarify further: I don't have any objection to
> > installing plymouth as long as the "splash" option is *not* included by
> > default. It
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 04:28:27AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
> On 22.01.2014 03:05, Josh Triplett wrote:
> >On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 02:53:51AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
> >>And yes, the latter option would be easier for the user, but
> >>probably mor
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 01:59:21AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote:
> On 22.01.2014 17:50, Josh Triplett wrote:
> >I don't know what isn't working there; you might try the systemd IRC
> >channel or mailing list, to see if they know what's going on.
>
> I just tr
namic discovery of devices without the need for udevadm
--settle or systemd-udev-settle.service; in the event such changes fully
obsolete the patch in question, the patch may be dropped."
Does that sound reasonable?
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iceweasel 26 uses gstreamer codecs to play h264 and other formats.
Please consider adding Recommends for the relevant gstreamer packages.
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a set of alternatives integrating with
different init systems need not individually run on other init
systems, as long as the packages collectively meet the requirements
of this section. [ For example, a package using systemd to launch a
user session, provided as an alternative to a package that
Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Ian Jackson wrote:
> > >Software outside of an init system's implementation may not require
> > >a specific init system to be pid 1, although degraded operation is
> > >to
ccept fixes that made their packages
work for more people." Fixing 726763 just needs a "Depends" from the
GNOME packages to reflect their dependency on logind and the suspend
inhibit mechanism, which as stated in the bug log won't happen until the
resolution of 727708. Meanwhil
o
effectively compete with systemd, precisely because of the requirement
to support *all* init systems.
Suppose upstart added compatibility for several of systemd's most
popular daemon interfaces. L, as written, would prohibit daemons from
depending on "either systemd or a sufficiently new version of upstart",
because that makes the daemon depend on specific providers of PID 1.
Thus, as Russ pointed out, "loose coupling" effectively forces the
lowest common denominator of not requiring anything sysvinit lacks.
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offer. Patches that the maintainers find acceptable would certainly be
cause to remove the block (and add the patch tag).
See also Russ's very clear response, which I agree with wholeheartedly;
thank you, Russ.
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On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 01:21:19PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Josh Triplett writes:
>
> > It should be completely trivial to introduce a virtual
> > "org-freedesktop-login1" package (modulo any complexities introduced by
> > interface versioning for n
On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 03:24:54PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 01:42:23PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > The block added above simply reflects the many comments from GNOME folks
> > (and systemd folks for that matter) saying that they're waiting fo
On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 05:23:11PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 01, 2014 at 01:12:34PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > In particular, in the case of GNOME, I don't see any package in the
> > archive yet for a fork of logind that depends on systemd-shim instea
pen for maintainers to reject even such simple changes as
> this.
Given that 726763 does not actually qualify as evidence for your
conclusion here, do you have any actual evidence that maintainers will
behave as you fear, rather than that maintainers are capable of ongoing
cooperative development?
installed a new init but not yet
rebooted into it.
It'd be nice to have a solution to both of those problems. Perhaps we
could (start the multi-release process to) augment dpkg to support
special dependencies such as kernels and init systems, for instance.
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tems do not. In both cases, the question is the
same: least common denominator, or actually using available
functionality?
(To forestall the obvious objection: "optional" is the same as "least
common denominator", in that it effectively prevents *relying* on that
functionality, and t
ot seem like it would extend to
"management guis or addons".
So, for instance, GNOME Logs, a new upstream project specifically
designed to browse the systemd journal, could by the clarification above
be considered part of the init system, and thus can depend on it?
If so, I would be
at first I wondered why there wasn't an equivalent of option
2 without the requirement for virtual dependencies, before realizing
that this is already permitted and the TC need only refrain from adding
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> releases:") were marked simply as "Therefore, for jessie:". That seems
> to dispose of part of your objection to L.
Given this statement, and Ian's followup objecting to that language,
might I suggest that there should be a version of the L rider
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 02:27:01AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> The following, added somewhere vim runs at startup, will use xterm's
> bracketed paste mode to make pasting automatically enable paste mode
> (and insert mode). Also works fine in ~/.vimrc .
>
> if &term ==
Ubuntu no longer uses the admin group (and, as far as I can tell,
never used the admin username).
http://askubuntu.com/a/122500/5682
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/893842
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sion of freetype. See the screenshots I posted; *both* of
them have obvious subpixel rendering, but the previous freetype does
sensible hinting that respects pixel boundaries and the current one does
not.
I use the default GNOME 3 fonts across the board (Cantarell and DejaVu),
modulo font sizes.
fault.
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> What I find interesting is that PK apparently gets activated very
> often on your machines, I wonder if this is intended...
Yes, that seems worth fixing as well; it really shouldn't be running
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control: owner -1 !
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I just wanted to follow up on this request. I've created a new package
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sincerely hope not to see Debian permanently fork GNOME
or its components; there are enough GNOME forks already (and note that
both Cinnamon and MATE are packaged).
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File: /usr/games/bzfquery/bzfquery.pl
bzflag installs bzfquery.pl to a subdirectory /usr/games/bzfquery/;
most likely the intent was to install it *as* /usr/games/bzfquery.
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I'm seeing the same issue here with the latest version.
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This bug has had a working patch available (and committed to a branch in
the Debian packaging repository) for more than a year. Is there
anything preventing that patch from being merged?
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> > This bug has had a working patch available (and committed to a branch in
> > the Debian packaging repository) for more than a year. Is there
> > anything preventing that pa
-ctte on bugs like this
is a mistake, as it undermines the normal assumption that maintainers of
different packages are capable of normal cooperation.
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Following up on this again: any chance of applying the patch that
upstream already has, or otherwise updating to include this
functionality?
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session optional pam_exec.so type=open_session stdout /bin/uname -snrvm
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ndar popup should be limited to the size of the
screen, with the list of meetings ellipsized at the end to make it fit.
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resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
grub-choose-default : Depends: grub
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
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Attempting to download any youtube video produces:
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ImportError: No module named pkg_resources
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Previous versions allowed starting a new game with Ctrl-N; the current
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I'm observing this with 3.8.4-4 as well. I can connect to wireless
networks just fine, but the icon always shows the disconnected state,
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reassign 729761 aptitude
retitle 729761 aptitude: Does not set holds in apt
thanks
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> 2013/11/17 Josh Triplett :
> > Package: gnome-packagekit
> > Version: 3.8.2-4
> > Severity: normal
> >
> >
omain != 0)
error: dconf dir must end with a slash
Usage:
dconf dump DIR
Dump an entire subpath to stdout
Arguments:
DIR A directory path (starting and ending with '/')
The error is legitimate, but the Glib-WARNING beforehand shouldn't
happen.
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future version of libminiupnpc
with a new SONAME, this also breaks the configure scripts of packages
that use AC_CHECK_LIB to check for -lminiupnpc and assume the headers
will be present if found.
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With CACert removed from the Debian default certificates, it no longer
makes sense to enable the CACert-dependent rules in https-everywhere.
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approach seems fine to me.
If there's anything we could do upstream to make this easier, let us know.
Thanks!
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> Hi Josh,
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:58:06PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Package: pulseaudio
> > Version: 1.1-3+b1
> > Severity: normal
> >
> > On my ThinkPad X220 (with Intel HDA au
nkpad X1 Carbon 2nd generation's adaptive keyboard
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accessibility-mode "large text" option.
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Source: mingw-w64
Version: 3.1.0-1
Severity: wishlist
wine allows testing programs built with mingw without a Windows system,
which makes it possible to run "make check" or similar; please consider
adding wine and wine64 to "Suggests".
- Josh Triplett
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y and fragility into the
test suite.)
- Josh Triplett
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control: forwarded -1 http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36040
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 05:36:00PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> control: tag -1 upstream
>
> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Normally, when wine runs a Windows program, and the
part of a single-user "session". Please
consider moving /etc/init.d/pulseaudio to an example file in
/usr/share/doc/pulseaudio, or removing it entirely.
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enough run it as part of a single-user
"session" instead.
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ial to also install an overriding /etc/tmpfiles.d/screen
with corresponding permissions. Nonetheless, that'd be worth mentioning
in NEWS.Debian.
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On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 12:31:35PM +0100, Axel Beckert wrote:
> Josh Triplett wrote:
> > I've attached a file screen.conf to install in /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d,
> > which sets up /var/run/screen. That then makes /etc/init.d/screen
> > unnecessary,
>
> ... only for peo
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 01:21:16PM +0100, Axel Beckert wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I've implemented (but neither yet tested nor pushed) systemd support
> as described by Josh.
>
> Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Note that this just covers the permissions of screen as install
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 02:43:10PM +0100, Axel Beckert wrote:
> Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Nonetheless, how about this: since the use of dpkg-statoverride exists
> > primarily to support the cases described in README (notably the question
> > at the end about enabling multiu
ot need to check the PDF's rotation first and
swap the dimensions.
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