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2015-06-02 Thread Anders Jackson
Den 2 jun 2015 13:51 skrev "Marcin Kulisz" : > > On 2015-06-02 20:14:19, Chris Fordham wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Martey Dodoo < bugs.debian@marteydodoo.com> > > wrote: > > > Personally, I think that if third-party software like Chef or Puppet are > > installed in the ba

Bug#787298: (no subject)

2015-06-02 Thread Marcin Kulisz
On 2015-06-02 20:14:19, Chris Fordham wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Martey Dodoo > wrote: > Personally, I think that if third-party software like Chef or Puppet are > installed in the base box (with all of their dependencies), it also makes > sense to install aptitude so th

Bug#787298: (no subject)

2015-06-02 Thread Chris Fordham
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Martey Dodoo < bugs.debian@marteydodoo.com> wrote: > Despite reporting this bug, I wasn't initially subscribed to it, so I am > just catching up on the discussion. > > According to the wiki < > https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Cloud/VagrantBaseBoxes>, the Vagrant b

Bug#787298: (no subject)

2015-06-02 Thread Martey Dodoo
Despite reporting this bug, I wasn't initially subscribed to it, so I am just catching up on the discussion. According to the wiki , the Vagrant base boxes include "Vagrant specific enhancements". One of the enhancements specifically mentio

Bug#787298: (no subject)

2015-06-02 Thread Chris Fordham
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Marcin Kulisz wrote: > On 2015-05-31 13:01:54, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > Hi, > > Hi Martin, > > > If we want to provide a vagrant box, that is an official image, i think > > our users will expect any of those provisioning providers to work out of > > the box. >

Bug#787298: (no subject)

2015-06-02 Thread Marcin Kulisz
On 2015-05-31 13:01:54, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, Hi Martin, > If we want to provide a vagrant box, that is an official image, i think > our users will expect any of those provisioning providers to work out of > the box. > > Thus including those into the vagrant default box makes sense. >

Bug#787298: (no subject)

2015-06-01 Thread Anders Ingemann
On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 8:19 AM Anders Ingemann wrote: > > Chef is already doing this where the bento boxes are provisionerless > and the vagrant-omnibus plugin installs the version of Chef to your liking. > This! Definitely the way to go. Is there anything required of the box for > that solution

Bug#787298: (no subject)

2015-06-01 Thread Anders Ingemann
> Chef is already doing this where the bento boxes are provisionerless and the vagrant-omnibus plugin installs the version of Chef to your liking. This! Definitely the way to go. Is there anything required of the box for that solution to work, or is all you need apt-get? On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:

Bug#787298: (no subject)

2015-06-01 Thread Chris Fordham
On 02/06/2015 7:12 AM, "Emmanuel Kasper" wrote: > > > The other point is that including (either) provisioner takes us further > > from the standard Debian image. > > BTW, Was is actually a standard Debian image ? > To the best of my knowledge, I would define it as all the packages with > Priority:

Bug#787298: (no subject)

2015-06-01 Thread Emmanuel Kasper
> The other point is that including (either) provisioner takes us further > from the standard Debian image. BTW, Was is actually a standard Debian image ? To the best of my knowledge, I would define it as all the packages with Priority: required and important. According to the Debian Jessie instal

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2015-06-01 Thread Jan Niggemann
Zitat von Martin Zobel-Helas : On Sun May 31, 2015 at 09:52:08 +0100, Marcin Kulisz wrote: I think that I won't agree that vagrant default box should include those packages. Simple explanations are: 1. it will take us further from standard Debian img 2. Ansible is not the only config mgmt so

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2015-05-31 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Sun May 31, 2015 at 09:52:08 +0100, Marcin Kulisz wrote: > I think that I won't agree that vagrant default box should include those > packages. > > Simple explanations are: > > 1. it will take us further from standard Debian img > 2. Ansible is not the only config mgmt soft which is use

Bug#787298: (no subject)

2015-05-31 Thread Anders Ingemann
I think we are in need of some kind of policy here. The idea of those images is that you can download them and they are ready-to-use (which means pre-installing software). This is in direct conflict with Debian branded images, because we want them to be as close to the standard distribution as poss

Bug#787298: (no subject)

2015-05-31 Thread Marcin Kulisz
I think that I won't agree that vagrant default box should include those packages. Simple explanations are: 1. it will take us further from standard Debian img 2. Ansible is not the only config mgmt soft which is used and to include at least the most popular will bloat base box very significan