Bug#758234: it's actively harmful

2014-11-04 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Matthias Urlichs [141103 07:48]: > > As long as only a small number of packages have the wrong priority, > > starting with that set and pulling the rest in via dependencies is > > likely to not run into any ugly problems. So simple algorithms have > > a chance. > > > I'm not saying that we shoul

Bug#758234: it's actively harmful

2014-11-02 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Bernhard R. Link: > Resolving dependencies is a hard and complex task. In general it will > not even have a unique solution. And virtual packages, alternatives > and versioned depends needs more complexity (including backtracking > to find solutions) than most tools can do. > We're not talkin

Bug#758234: it's actively harmful

2014-11-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Matthias Urlichs [141029 19:48]: > That's obvious. What is not so obvious, to me, is why we would still > want the current policy in the first place, given that everything(?) > is resolved via dependencies these days. Resolving dependencies is a hard and complex task. In general it will not eve

Bug#758234: it's actively harmful

2014-11-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 05:09:45PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs a écrit : > Santiago Vila: > > Maybe because current policy allows one to take the following set of > > packages: > > > > + Packages of required priority. > > * Packages of important or higher priority. > > * Packages of standard or highe

Bug#758234: it's actively harmful

2014-10-22 Thread Adam Borowski
I'd say this policy is not only not bringing anything good, but is actively harmful. It does cause a data loss: neither we nor the tools know what a package's real priority should be as it's overwritten by the max priority of its dependencies. Problem 1: non-default user wishes debootstrap --excl