Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2015-03-29 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
On 30/03/15 03:34, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 30.03.2015 um 02:25 schrieb Dmitry Alexandrov: On 30/03/15 02:41, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 30.03.2015 um 01:21 schrieb Dmitry Alexandrov: On 30/03/15 01:01, Michael Biebl wrote: The default policy shipped in Debian allows local desktop users to mount/

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2015-03-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 30.03.2015 um 02:25 schrieb Dmitry Alexandrov: > On 30/03/15 02:41, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Am 30.03.2015 um 01:21 schrieb Dmitry Alexandrov: >>> On 30/03/15 01:01, Michael Biebl wrote: The default policy shipped in Debian allows local desktop users to mount/umount/format etc removable

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2015-03-29 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
On 30/03/15 02:41, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 30.03.2015 um 01:21 schrieb Dmitry Alexandrov: On 30/03/15 01:01, Michael Biebl wrote: The default policy shipped in Debian allows local desktop users to mount/umount/format etc removable media. ‘Format’? How? udisksctl(1) does mot provide such a pos

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2015-03-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 30.03.2015 um 01:21 schrieb Dmitry Alexandrov: > On 30/03/15 01:01, Michael Biebl wrote: >> As I mentioned in previous reply, desktops should use udisks2 to manage >> storage devices. >> >> The default policy shipped in Debian allows local desktop users to >> mount/umount/format etc removable me

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2015-03-29 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
On 30/03/15 01:01, Michael Biebl wrote: As I mentioned in previous reply, desktops should use udisks2 to manage storage devices. The default policy shipped in Debian allows local desktop users to mount/umount/format etc removable media. ‘Format’? How? udisksctl(1) does mot provide such a possi

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2015-03-29 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 29.03.2015 um 23:46 schrieb Troy Benjegerdes: > > What exactly the issue with this change? If I am not going to get > the old behavior of removable USB disks owned by 'floppy', can > someone at least bother to explain why it was changed, or when > it will be fixed? There is nothing to be fix

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2015-03-29 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
What exactly the issue with this change? If I am not going to get the old behavior of removable USB disks owned by 'floppy', can someone at least bother to explain why it was changed, or when it will be fixed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subjec

Bug#751892: Re: Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2015-02-26 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 26/02/15 15:13, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Feb 26, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > >> To any random user reading this bug (me for example) it looks like you >> did this change that broke a feature that was working previously without >> any valid reason and that you don't even care to explain

Bug#751892: Re: Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2015-02-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 26, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > To any random user reading this bug (me for example) it looks like you > did this change that broke a feature that was working previously without > any valid reason and that you don't even care to explain it. I am quite confident that I will be able

Bug#751892: Re: Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2015-02-26 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 19/11/14 04:24, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > On Nov 19, Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> May I ask, what exactly did work wrong with removable medias belonging to >> ‘floppy’ group? To me it is one of conventions that always existed. Was >> there any bug caused by it? >

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2014-11-20 Thread ed neville
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 07:33:56AM +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: > >Use pmount? > > ‘pmount(1)’ does not have an ability to label filesystems (at least > manpage says nothing about that). Just to add, what solution/work around would there be for eject? Having removable media automatically grou

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2014-11-18 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Use pmount? ‘pmount(1)’ does not have an ability to label filesystems (at least manpage says nothing about that). I do not argue, that it might be nice to have a wrapper around ‘fatlabel(1)’, ‘e2label(1)’, ‘ntfslabel(1)’, etc (and mkfs.* also) that uses PolicyKit to authorize raw-access to

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2014-11-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 19, Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote: > May I ask, what exactly did work wrong with removable medias belonging to > ‘floppy’ group? To me it is one of conventions that always existed. Was > there any bug caused by it? Yes, and I have no interest in digging them up from the BTS arc

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2014-11-18 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
We have no plans to do this, using groups for external devices was intentionally removed because it never worked well. May I ask, what exactly did work wrong with removable medias belonging to ‘floppy’ group? To me it is one of conventions that always existed. Was there any bug caused by it?

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2014-11-18 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 19, Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote: > Until the ruleset is put back to package (I hope for that), I’d prefer more We have no plans to do this, using groups for external devices was intentionally removed because it never worked well. > obvious workaround on user’s side: just put

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2014-11-18 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Perfect... Now I have to use superuser powers in order to just re-format or even re-label USB-media, and lose the possibility to exposure¹ live USB-media to virtual machine (say, VirtualBox) to boot from it. And that is (as far as I can see the matter) just because a debian-specific patch name

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2014-06-20 Thread quidame
Hi, On 17/06/2014 17:28, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 17.06.2014 17:04, schrieb Yann Amar: >> >> Knowing that the default user created during installation is member of >> secondary groups 'floppy' and 'plugdev', and knowing that making this user a >> member of the 'disk' group will only lead to secur

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2014-06-17 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 17.06.2014 17:04, schrieb Yann Amar: > Package: udev > Version: 204-10 > Severity: normal > > Dear Maintainer, > > since some Debian specific rules (91-permissions.rules?) have been dropped > from > udev, external media (USB, firewire, SD-card) belong to disk group: > > user@debian:~$ ls -l

Bug#751892: udev: external media belong to disk group

2014-06-17 Thread Yann Amar
Package: udev Version: 204-10 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, since some Debian specific rules (91-permissions.rules?) have been dropped from udev, external media (USB, firewire, SD-card) belong to disk group: user@debian:~$ ls -l /dev/sd* /dev/mmc* brw-rw 1 root disk 179, 0 juin 16 23:5