Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-19 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:07:23AM +, Bart Martens wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:39:03AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > and in particular when they can be > > contrary to DFSG 6. (No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor) and > > 7. (Distribution of License): > > > > 7. Distri

Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-19 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:39:03AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 03:41:54PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:08:18AM +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > > What's next? prohibiting 'tip of the day' kind of dialogs? First run > > > wizards? > > > Or war

Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-19 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 03:41:54PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:08:18AM +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > What's next? prohibiting 'tip of the day' kind of dialogs? First run > > wizards? > > Or warnings that this is a dangerous/experimental/developer/debugging tool > >

Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-18 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Josh Triplett wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 08:27:47PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> I do think this is iffy from a DFSG #7 perspective, since it's forcing the >> user to agree to the additional license, but I'm not sure we've ever >> discussed that in general. > > That thought crossed my mind

Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-18 Thread Josh Triplett
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 08:27:47PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Russ Allbery writes: > > > To me, this feels like a specific instance of the general problem of > > excessive maintainer script prompting. > > Oh, I see why you didn't class it that way: this isn't something done by > the maintainer

Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-18 Thread Josh Triplett
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 08:17:05PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Josh Triplett writes: > > I don't intend this as a slippery slope; I very specifically want to > > cover the types of annoyances mentioned in the above paragraph, which > > almost no software in Debian actually includes. See the tran

Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery writes: > To me, this feels like a specific instance of the general problem of > excessive maintainer script prompting. Oh, I see why you didn't class it that way: this isn't something done by the maintainer scripts, but rather something done by the package itself. Sorry, I had some

Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Josh Triplett writes: > I don't intend this as a slippery slope; I very specifically want to > cover the types of annoyances mentioned in the above paragraph, which > almost no software in Debian actually includes. See the transmission > bug I linked to in the original bug submission. > If you

Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-17 Thread Josh Triplett
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:08:18AM +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On Sunday 14 October 2012 23:50:21 Josh Triplett wrote: > > = > > Software in Debian should not prompt users to explicitly agree to > > licenses, disclaimers, or terms of service in order to run that > > software. This includes pr

Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-17 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Sunday 14 October 2012 23:50:21 Josh Triplett wrote: > = > Software in Debian should not prompt users to explicitly agree to > licenses, disclaimers, or terms of service in order to run that > software. This includes prompts to agree to Free Sofware licenses > (since such licenses do not re

Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-14 Thread Bart Martens
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 02:50:21PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > = > Software in Debian should not prompt users to explicitly agree to > licenses, disclaimers, or terms of service in order to run that > software. This includes prompts to agree to Free Sofware licenses > (since such licenses do

Bug#690495: Prohibit click-through licenses or disclaimers

2012-10-14 Thread Josh Triplett
Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist Inspired by bug 689095, I'd like to suggest something like the following as an addition to Debian Policy: = Software in Debian should not prompt users to explicitly agree to licenses, disclaimers, or terms of service in order to run that software. Th