Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-27 Thread Gergely Nagy
Thorsten Glaser writes: > Neil Williams dixit: > >>Just what is wrong with old-style debhelper like: > > And in fact, it has limitations (such as not being able > to rename in dh_install) and other requirements which, > for mksh, throw a stone in my way more often than help. FWIW, you do not nee

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Neil Williams dixit: >Just what is wrong with old-style debhelper like: And in fact, it has limitations (such as not being able to rename in dh_install) and other requirements which, for mksh, throw a stone in my way more often than help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@li

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Neil Williams dixit: >m68k is not a Debian architecture It used to be one. >it's requirements don't matter to the rest of Debian. So speed doesn’t matter? I’m sure the maintainers of slower architectures that *are* still in Debian would like to disagree. Or do you want to throw them out while h

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:24:32 + (UTC) Thorsten Glaser wrote: > >Just what is wrong with old-style debhelper like: > > Not much, other than the time a cowbuilder actually spends building > the code, versus the time spent installing the B-D and doing several > debhelper operations which – on m6

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Neil Williams dixit: >How is it helpful if you *and only you* know what is going on? It’s better when the responsible person and noone else knows what’s going on than when the responsible person doesn’t know what’s going on. >> bug in fakeroot precisely *because* the pax just built is used >> to

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:21:05 + (UTC) Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Neil Williams dixit: > > >work on except you. You are replaceable and pax is not *your personal > >package* - it is in Debian, everyone with upload rights needs to be > >able to at least work out if the package is sane. > > Somew

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Neil Williams dixit: >work on except you. You are replaceable and pax is not *your personal >package* - it is in Debian, everyone with upload rights needs to be >able to at least work out if the package is sane. Somewhat, yes. But I am still the maintainer, and doing things. >It adds to the mess

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-26 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 23:38:04 + (UTC) Thorsten Glaser wrote: > >0: mangling to suit your own tools: > >dpkg-gencontrol -ppax -Pdebian/pax -isp > >mv debian/pax/DEBIAN/control debian/B/c/ > >rm -rf debian/pax/DEBIAN > ># goodbye dh_md5sums > >(cd debian/p

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-25 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Dixi quod… >I will change this if the current thing is proven to be unfit, or if >a better alternative exists. But not now. For what it’s worth, I asked because someone said possible behaviour bugs. I don’t see a single hint of that in your list. Maybe the one with chown 0:0 may be perceived as o

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-25 Thread Thorsten Glaser
retitle 690381 mksh, pax: please use a more common packaging style thanks Neil Williams dixit: >OK, I'm now even more miffed by pax because I've had to go through the >source code AGAIN and it makes less sense now than it did during the >BSP. Thanks for wasting yet more of my time. Uhm, you coul

Bug#690381: Insane packaging of pax

2012-11-25 Thread Neil Williams
>Steve McIntyre dixit: >>we think we may have found behaviour bugs too, >>but we can't be sure without spending even more effort. > >OK, just give me what you have, and I'll look at it, but I'm >pretty sure I checked them. OK, I'm now even more miffed by pax because I've had to go through the sou