Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-17 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Perhaps taking d-mentors@l.d.o off future replies could be done. Thanks! -mz On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Vladimir Stavrinov writes: >> In some degree it is compensated by the fact, that double letters are >> excluded as well as other combinations. This forces

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > In some degree it is compensated by the fact, that double letters are > excluded as well as other combinations. This forces to to call $RANDOM > again and again before pick up a symbol. Calling $RANDOM again and again does not help at all. If you run for i in $(seq

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-17 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 09:40:50PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Now there is at least the problem that you are using the $RANDOM Yes, I am aware of this already and will consider other solutions. > variable of bash. It is easily predictable and should not be used to In some degree it i

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/r/rpg/rpg_1.0.4-1.dsc Now there is at least the problem that you are using the $RANDOM variable of bash. It is easily predictable and should not be used to produce passwords. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-r

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-11 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 11:00:27PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > > I am on 3.2.0-2 > > I'm on linux-image-3.2.0-1-amd64 3.2.4-1 and it works. > root@mana:~# stap -e 'probe syscall.execve { printf("%s\n", argstr); }' -c 'rpg' semantic error: missing x86_64 ke

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-11 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > I am on 3.2.0-2 I'm on linux-image-3.2.0-1-amd64 3.2.4-1 and it works. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-11 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:46:06PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Why? systemtap works with debian stable kernels. I am on 3.2.0-2 *** ### Vladimir Stavrinov ### vstavri...@gmail.com *** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-req

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-11 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > Certainly! But to resolve last issue, I should compile custom kernel, > while at this time I am using Debian binary kernel. Why? systemtap works with debian stable kernels. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "un

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-11 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:16:15PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > If you are going to maintain this package you really need to learn how > to audit it for security issues :) Certainly! But to resolve last issue, I should compile custom kernel, while at this time I am using Debian binary ker

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-11 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > Don't worry, we have nowhere to rush. I can't check it myself, so I'll > wait for You. Thank You for Your assistance. If you are going to maintain this package you really need to learn how to audit it for security issues :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-11 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 08:15:56PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > > I'm too busy at least at the moment. > Don't worry, we have nowhere to rush. I can't check it myself, so I'll wait for You. Thank You for Your assistance. *** ### Vladimir Stavrinov ### vstavr

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-11 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > Fixed. Please, check it again: I'm too busy at least at the moment. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-11 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 09:32:22AM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > It's the tr commands this time. > > $ stap -e 'probe syscall.execve { printf("%s\n", argstr); }' -c './rpg' Fixed. Please, check it again: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/r/rpg/rpg_1.0.4-1.dsc -- *

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-10 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 09:32:22AM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > > Ok. Show me where You see password. What command in process list does show > > password? > > It's the tr commands this time. Thank You. I will fix this. -- *** ## Vladimir Stavrinov ## vstavri.

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-10 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > Ok. Show me where You see password. What command in process list does show > password? It's the tr commands this time. $ stap -e 'probe syscall.execve { printf("%s\n", argstr); }' -c './rpg' parketdufime ./rpg /usr/bin/cut "-c" "7" /usr/bin/tr "-d" "p" /us

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-06 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 01:36:10AM +0400, Vladimir Stavrinov wrote: > > rpg 1.0.2 > > Ok. Show me where You see password. What command in process list does show > password? Please, check new version: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/r/rpg/rpg_1.0.3-1.dsc *

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-06 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 12:23:11AM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > > rpg 1.0.2 Ok. Show me where You see password. What command in process list does show password? *** ### Vladimir Stavrinov ### vstavri...@gmail.com *** -- To UN

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > May be You are using old version? Please, show me output from: > > rpg -V $ ./rpg -V rpg 1.0.2 (C) Vladimir Stavrinov vstavri...@gmail.com, GPL Just think about all the commands you execute. It shouldn't be too difficult. I can disclose the right a

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-06 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 12:22:05AM +0400, Vladimir Stavrinov wrote: > How? It is impossible: to fix the last bug, I have removed grep at all > and used shell variable editing instead. And I can't reproduce this bug. > Please, show me where and how do You see password. May be You are using old ver

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-06 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 10:48:33PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > > Fixed: > > Unfortunately not. I can still see the password. Writing security How? It is impossible: to fix the last bug, I have removed grep at all and used shell variable editing instead. And

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-06 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > Fixed: Unfortunately not. I can still see the password. Writing security sensitive software a shell script is quite challenging. I would really urge you to improve some existing program instead. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.or

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-06 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 06:48:26PM +0400, Vladimir Stavrinov wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 05:35:21PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > > > When the generator prints "Vipeza" as a password it does > > > > /bin/grep "-qw" "vi" > > Yes, I see: it is another invocation of grep. Should be fix

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-05 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:56:19AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Debian already has the apg package, which purports to do the same thing > and is a compiled C binary, so doesn't have the various problems with > grep. Is the readability of the passwords generated by rpg really > sufficiently better

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > To advantage of this utility points it's name: "READABLE password > generator". If You can read (i.e. to pronounce), then it is easy for > remembering. But "readable" doesn't means "weak" - it is strong enough > as long as dictionary is available for consulting to exc

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-05 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 05:35:21PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > When the generator prints "Vipeza" as a password it does > > /bin/grep "-qw" "vi" Yes, I see: it is another invocation of grep. Should be fixed in similar way. But it is more tricky, because here the stdin already used by g

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-05 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > I've ran rpg in continues loop, but no password was caught, because it > fed to grep via stdin directly from shell. To be sure, please, test it > again. I can still see the password. When the generator prints "Vipeza" as a password it does /bin/grep "-qw" "vi" /bin/

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-05 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 01:39:07PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > I think rpg is very insecure since all local users of the system can see > the passwords that you generate. All they need to do is to look for the > "grep" commands that appear in the process list. Fixed. See: http://mentors

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > First of all in most cases it is using on workstation where are no other > live users then You (or hacker breached into Your system) . Second, it > is used sporadically and rarely. To catch those passwords You need > continuously watching and analyze process list for a

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 01:41:43PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > We also have pwgen which "generates pronounceable passwords" according > to its man page. As You can see, it is first utility mentioned here in this thread before apg, and again, I have used it too before apg. But it generates e

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 04/04/2012 01:09 PM, Vladimir Stavrinov wrote: > I've used apg few years ago, but was not satisfied with it. That is > exactly why I have started to write my own alternative. The main point > was pronounceability. We also have pwgen which "generates pronounceable passwords" according to its man

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 01:39:07PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > I think rpg is very insecure since all local users of the system can see > the passwords that you generate. All they need to do is to look for the > "grep" commands that appear in the process list. First of all in most cases

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:22:44PM +0200, Bartosz Feński wrote: > So basically this is another tool like the apg? > http://packages.debian.org/sid/apg I've used apg few years ago, but was not satisfied with it. That is exactly why I have started to write my own alternative. The main point was pr

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Vladimir Stavrinov writes: > To advantage of this utility points it's name: "READABLE password > generator". If You can read (i.e. to pronounce), then it is easy for > remembering. But "readable" doesn't means "weak" - it is strong enough > as long as dictionary is available for consulting to excl

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Bartosz Feński
W dniu 04.04.2012 12:17, Vladimir Stavrinov pisze: > To advantage of this utility points it's name: "READABLE password > generator". If You can read (i.e. to pronounce), then it is easy for > remembering. But "readable" doesn't means "weak" - it is strong enough > as long as dictionary is available

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-04-04 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
To advantage of this utility points it's name: "READABLE password generator". If You can read (i.e. to pronounce), then it is easy for remembering. But "readable" doesn't means "weak" - it is strong enough as long as dictionary is available for consulting to exclude words from out of there. --

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-02-07 Thread Bas van den Dikkenberg
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Richard Laager [mailto:rlaa...@wiktel.com] Verzonden: dinsdag 7 februari 2012 21:26 Aan: Bas van den Dikkenberg; 659...@bugs.debian.org Onderwerp: Re: Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator What advantages does this program have over pwgen

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-02-07 Thread Richard Laager
What advantages does this program have over pwgen (which has been around for a long time and is already package)? -- Richard signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator

2012-02-07 Thread Bas van den Dikkenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: sponsorship-requests Severity: normal Dear mentors, I am looking for a sponsor for my package "rpg". * Package name: rpg Version : 1.0.0-1 Upstream Author : Vladimir Stavrinov * URL : http://sourceforge.net/pr