Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-21 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:50:01PM +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 07:05 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 01:09:34AM +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 14:29 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:30:41PM +0100, Ben

Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-21 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 07:05 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 01:09:34AM +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 14:29 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:30:41PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > >... > > > > This is wrong on so many levels. >

Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 01:09:34AM +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 14:29 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:30:41PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > >... > > > This is wrong on so many levels. > > > 1. There is no way to declare relations to 'all kernel pack

Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 14:29 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:30:41PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > >... > > This is wrong on so many levels. > > 1. There is no way to declare relations to 'all kernel packages'. > > Why not? 1. There are many different binary packages for dif

Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-18 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Adrian Bunk wrote: > Why is this "sid chroot on a stable system" usecase so important? I don't write the policies. More to the point, what I was trying to say is that the package manager will not help you with this. To get reasonable behavior on what really is a common configuration, you need t

Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:30:41PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > What would be the correct handling for a package whose upstream sources > > use a userspace<->kernel interface introduced in 2.6.39? > > Check for -ENOSYS, print a helpful error message, and exit. And co

Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-18 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Adrian Bunk wrote: > What would be the correct handling for a package whose upstream sources > use a userspace<->kernel interface introduced in 2.6.39? Check for -ENOSYS, print a helpful error message, and exit. And cooperate with upstream to come up with a reasonable fallback so your package c

Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 08:35:21PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 14:29:47 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > How could a package declare "I need at least kernel 2.6.39"? > > You can't, and shouldn't, do that (at least until after the wheezy > release). Why "shouldn't"? Wha

Bug#609300: Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-18 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 14:29:47 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > How could a package declare "I need at least kernel 2.6.39"? You can't, and shouldn't, do that (at least until after the wheezy release). Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a s

Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-18 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
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Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:45:20PM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:29:47PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > tags 609300 +patch > > thanks > > > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:30:41PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > >... > > > This is wrong on so many levels. > > > 1. There i

Bug#609300: Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-18 Thread Uwe Kleine-König
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:29:47PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > tags 609300 +patch > thanks > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:30:41PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > >... > > This is wrong on so many levels. > > 1. There is no way to declare relations to 'all kernel packages'. > > Why not? > > How cou

Bug#609300: Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
tags 609300 +patch thanks On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:30:41PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >... > This is wrong on so many levels. > 1. There is no way to declare relations to 'all kernel packages'. Why not? How could a package declare "I need at least kernel 2.6.39"? (I know that self-compiled ke

Bug#609300: Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 06:41:59PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 03:45:58PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 16:04 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > Package: linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64 > > > Version: 2.6.39-3 > > > Severity: serious > > > > This is not RC f

Bug#609300: Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 03:45:58PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 16:04 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Package: linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64 > > Version: 2.6.39-3 > > Severity: serious > > This is not RC for the kernel. "Upgrade makes another package completely unusable when not

Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 16:04 +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Package: linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64 > Version: 2.6.39-3 > Severity: serious This is not RC for the kernel. > Upgrading the kernel without also upgrading input-utils (e.g. when > using the version in squeeze or the version currently in testin

Bug#633961: linux images must conflict with unfixed input-utils

2011-07-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
Package: linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64 Version: 2.6.39-3 Severity: serious Upgrading the kernel without also upgrading input-utils (e.g. when using the version in squeeze or the version currently in testing) makes input-utils unusable (see #609300). After #609300 got fixed, the linux images should t