Bug#564753: disastrous for stable

2010-01-19 Thread Sam Hartman
This issue was a major focus of discussion at today's release meeting for MIT Kerberos upstream. The consortium plans to: 1) Introduce a new API to enable weak crypto for a given context. This API will not be the same as the Heimdal API for implementation complexity reasons. 2) Look into loggin

Bug#564753: disastrous for stable

2010-01-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Bushnell BSG writes: > This is only part of the problem. The kdc log entry made it seem as if > the principal was missing entirely--hardly accurate. But the krb5 user > error that aklog printed was also horrible. (Giant numeric thing? Is > that really our SOP?) As mentioned, that's a b

Bug#564753: disastrous for stable

2010-01-15 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 15:44 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > 2) Either upstream or in a Debian-specific API to be removed in the > > future--I.E. something not in a public header--we could provide some > > exception path for AFS. > > I talked to Tom on the phone about this today and proposed an addi

Bug#564753: disastrous for stable

2010-01-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Sam Hartman writes: > Here are my thoughts. > 1) There are things we could choose to do in krb5-config to make things > better for Debian. I made one proposal. It's not clear that's > necessary though. The concern I have with a fix in krb5-config is that it's not entirely clear both what to t

Bug#564753: disastrous for stable

2010-01-15 Thread Sam Hartman
Here are my thoughts. 1) There are things we could choose to do in krb5-config to make things better for Debian. I made one proposal. It's not clear that's necessary though. 2) Either upstream or in a Debian-specific API to be removed in the future--I.E. something not in a public header--we coul

Bug#564753: disastrous for stable

2010-01-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Bushnell BSG writes: > I will say that the bug in unstable is at the very least a serious UI > bug. I think the way that MIT Kerberos handled this transition is not really going to work well in combination with AFS. They seem to have approached it from the perspective that AFS is just on

Bug#564753: disastrous for stable

2010-01-15 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I apologize, on further more careful checking, it is as you say. The security update to stable happened close in time to the regular unstable update, and I conflated the two in my confusion about the bug. I will say that the bug in unstable is at the very least a serious UI bug. If the problem i

Bug#564753: disastrous for stable

2010-01-15 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Thomas" == Thomas Bushnell BSG writes: Thomas> This bug was propagated to the *stable* release because of Thomas> the recent (minor) security issue. Thomas, I'm having a hard time substantiating this claim. According to my rmadison: krb5 | 1.6.dfsg.4~beta1-5lenny2 | proposed-upda

Bug#564753: disastrous for stable

2010-01-15 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
This bug was propagated to the *stable* release because of the recent (minor) security issue. And *that's* an unmitigated disaster. It is very very not ok for security patches in Debian to include *anything* which could break in such a way. The security team and the krb5 maintainers did not revi