Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 25, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 03:57:25PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: Installing ntp by default (making it have priority "standard") would be good for the many Debian users who have always-on network access. But it would be a problem for the minority who

Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-25 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Nov 12, 2006 at 03:57:25PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Installing ntp by default (making it have priority "standard") would > be good for the many Debian users who have always-on network access. > But it would be a problem for the minority who have no or only > intermittent (e.g.

Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-23 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 22-11-2006 om 23:02 schreef Olaf van der Spek: > There's a checkbox in the Gnome clock applet to enable NTP. But that > doesn't work if it's not installed and I doubt the average user is > easily able to install NTP. Then (ab)use the Gnome clock applet to get NTP installed. Cheers Geert Sta

Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-22 Thread Olaf van der Spek
Rick Thomas wrote: On Nov 22, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: No network mean the "Network Time Protocol" won't work. Intermittent network (e.g. dial-up) means that NTP goes for long periods with no connection to the external time servers. The ntpd daemon is (

Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-22 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 22, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: No network mean the "Network Time Protocol" won't work. Intermittent network (e.g. dial-up) means that NTP goes for long periods with no connection to the external time servers. The ntpd daemon is (mostly) OK with th

Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-22 Thread Olaf van der Spek
Rick Thomas wrote: No network mean the "Network Time Protocol" won't work. Intermittent network (e.g. dial-up) means that NTP goes for long periods with no connection to the external time servers. The ntpd daemon is (mostly) OK with that, but some auto-dialers may see it's occasional polls a

Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-22 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 22, 2006, at 1:05 PM, Olaf van der Spek wrote: reopen 397649 thanks Could we have NTP by default? > But it would be a problem for the minority who have no or only > intermittent (e.g. dial-up) network access. Why would it be a problem? No network mean the "Network Time Protocol" won

Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-22 Thread Olaf van der Spek
Frans Pop wrote: > On Wednesday 22 November 2006 19:05, Olaf van der Spek wrote: >> Could we have NTP by default? > > Having NTP by default is not a d-i team decision but would better be > discussed on debian-devel. Who's decision is it? -- Olaf van der Spek http://xccu.sf.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 22 November 2006 19:05, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > Could we have NTP by default? Having NTP by default is not a d-i team decision but would better be discussed on debian-devel. The option to use ntpdate or similar *during install* to set the hardware clock is a d-i decision and is s

Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-22 Thread Olaf van der Spek
reopen 397649 thanks Could we have NTP by default? > But it would be a problem for the minority who have no or only > intermittent (e.g. dial-up) network access. Why would it be a problem? > I leave it to the PTBs to figure out whether there is a compromise > position. PTBs? -- To UNSUBSCR

Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 11, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Geert Stappers wrote: Op 08-11-2006 om 20:09 schreef Olaf van der Spek: Also, no NTP synchronization is available by default. I really think Debian should install. Maybe install but disable, although I'd prefer it to be enabled by default. The Debian-installer

Bug#397649: install-report: NTP sync missing by default

2006-11-11 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 08-11-2006 om 20:09 schreef Olaf van der Spek: > > Also, no NTP synchronization is available by default. > I really think Debian should install. > Maybe install but disable, although I'd prefer it to be enabled by default. The Debian-installer installs by default the packages with priority "sta