Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour

2025-01-12 Thread Ian Jackson
FTR: I am currently working on an unrelated package whose rules file has been largely rewritten. [1] In order to validate the changes, I want to be build the package before-and-after. But of course the package doesn't build "before" in sid, because of this behavioural change in dpkg-buildpackage

Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour

2025-01-07 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Ian Jackson [250107 11:56]: > Chris Hofstaedtler writes ("Re: Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request > <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour"): > > I'm sympathetic to keeping existing out-of-Debian packaging working, > > but I just have to note two thoughts: > &

Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour

2025-01-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Hofstaedtler writes ("Re: Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour"): > I'm sympathetic to keeping existing out-of-Debian packaging working, > but I just have to note two thoughts: > > 1) actual downstreams are used to dealing with ch

Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour

2025-01-07 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 10:23:12AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: [..] > One piece of background that is heavily influencing my thinking is: > > It is easy, when working within Debian, to radically overestimate the > likely quality of non-Debian packages. I have done some work with > packages in the r

Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour

2025-01-07 Thread Ian Jackson
Guillem Jover writes ("Re: Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour"): > As a heads up, please read my reply more as an exploratory one with > a pinch of push back, Thanks for the attention. I'm going to reply in the same spirit. I want to em

Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour

2025-01-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2025-01-05 at 22:47:31 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Package: dpkg > Version: 1.22.13 > Control: block 1092190 by -1 As a heads up, please read my reply more as an exploratory one with a pinch of push back, instead of a directed vector to a wontfix kind of thing, as I'd like to understa

Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour

2025-01-06 Thread Niels Thykier
Ian Jackson: Niels Thykier writes ("Re: Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour"): Ian Jackson: dgit's test suite uses some rule-invocation-tracking test packages to see which targets get invoked by various build modes. (This is necessary to mak

Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour

2025-01-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Niels Thykier writes ("Re: Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour"): > Ian Jackson: > >> dgit's test suite uses some rule-invocation-tracking test packages to > >> see which targets get invoked by various build modes. (This is

Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour

2025-01-06 Thread Niels Thykier
Ian Jackson: Package: dpkg Version: 1.22.13 Control: block 1092190 by -1 Hi. (Firstly, I should say thank you very much to Niels Thykier for your work on Rules-Requires-Root. Tidying this up is a big job which you've been doing very well. Speaking personally I have really appreciated the inte

Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour

2025-01-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2025-01-05 at 22:47:31 +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Package: dpkg > Version: 1.22.13 > Control: block 1092190 by -1 > Now, though, I'm afraid I come with the change request: I've got a draft reply almost finished, but it's gotten too late and need to sleep, and would need to go over i

Bug#1092193: option (or env) to request <=bookworm r-r-r behaviour

2025-01-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: dpkg Version: 1.22.13 Control: block 1092190 by -1 Hi. (Firstly, I should say thank you very much to Niels Thykier for your work on Rules-Requires-Root. Tidying this up is a big job which you've been doing very well. Speaking personally I have really appreciated the interactions I've h