Re: Init system for non-Linux ports

2014-01-29 Thread Petr Salinger
1. stay with sysvinit 2. switch to OpenRC unconditionally 3. switch to Upstart unconditionally 4. switch to Upstart only if Linux uses it by default, otherwise OpenRC 5. further discussion Please rank the above putting your preferred option first, as per Debian's usual Condorcet voting system. T

Re: Init system for non-Linux ports

2014-01-29 Thread Christoph Egger
Hi! Robert Millan writes: > [ 3 ] 1. stay with sysvinit > [ 3 ] 2. switch to OpenRC unconditionally > [ 3 ] 3. switch to Upstart unconditionally > [ 1 ] 4. switch to Upstart only if Linux uses it by default, otherwise OpenRC > [ 2 ] 5. further discussion Petr Salinger writes: > I would add also

Re: Bug#621379: havp: FTBFS on kfreebsd-*: checking for mandatory locking support... OS not supported

2014-01-29 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Version: 0.92a-2 Package havp already built on kfreebsd-*, nearly 3 years ago :/ therefore closing this bug now. Thanks, Regards, -- Steven Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas.

Bug#650684: marked as done (freebsd-quota: FTBFS: Makefile:12: *** missing separator. Stop.)

2014-01-29 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:22:12 + with message-id <52e90e94.9070...@pyro.eu.org> and subject line Re: Bug#650684: freebsd-quota: FTBFS: Makefile:12: *** missing separator. Stop. has caused the Debian Bug report #650684, regarding freebsd-quota: FTBFS: Makefile:12: *** missing sepa

Re: Init system for non-Linux ports

2014-01-29 Thread Jeff Epler
I'm only a kFreeBSD user and don't have any official standing within the Debian project, but all the same my preferences are 614253 where 6. is the proposed alternative to switch to Upstart if Linux uses it, otherwise sysvinit. Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.

Re: Bits from the Release Team: Architecture health check

2014-01-29 Thread Robert Millan
Hi Niels, On 29/01/2014 19:41, Niels Thykier wrote: > * kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 >- On one hand, we are unconvinced that kFreeBSD will be able > to be on par with other release architectures in terms of > supported packages for Jessie. >- On the other hand, we believe k

Re: Bits from the Release Team: Architecture health check

2014-01-29 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 29/01/14 22:11, Robert Millan wrote: > On 29/01/2014 19:41, Niels Thykier wrote: >> * kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 >>- On one hand, we are unconvinced that kFreeBSD will be able >> to be on par with other release architectures in terms of >> supported packages for Jessie. >>

Re: Bits from the Release Team: Architecture health check

2014-01-29 Thread Robert Millan
On 29/01/2014 23:24, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > If some packages (potentially the whole > GNOME desktop environment) get a hard systemd dependency that would > somewhat reduce the scope of the port for us I think. >From what I can see in previous TC discussion, it seems that the plan is for sysvi

Re: Bits from the Release Team: Architecture health check

2014-01-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Robert Millan writes: > On 29/01/2014 23:24, Steven Chamberlain wrote: >> If some packages (potentially the whole GNOME desktop environment) get >> a hard systemd dependency that would somewhat reduce the scope of the >> port for us I think. > From what I can see in previous TC discussion, it se

Re: Bits from the Release Team: Architecture health check

2014-01-29 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2014-01-29 23:24, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > On 29/01/14 22:11, Robert Millan wrote: >> On 29/01/2014 19:41, Niels Thykier wrote: >>> * kfreebsd-amd64 and kfreebsd-i386 >>>- On one hand, we are unconvinced that kFreeBSD will be able >>> to be on par with other release architectures in

Re: Bits from the Release Team: Architecture health check

2014-01-29 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 29/01/14 22:50, Russ Allbery wrote: > Per Josselin's latest discussion of this, there doesn't appear to be any > direct GNOME dependencies on systemd itself that would be blocking for > jessie. Sorry, I got completely the opposite impression from this tonight: On 29/01/14 17:41, Josselin Mouet

Re: Bits from the Release Team: Architecture health check

2014-01-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Steven Chamberlain writes: > Sorry, I got completely the opposite impression from this tonight: > On 29/01/14 17:41, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> Because it needs logind. >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/01/msg00360.html > So, even having an adequate logind substitute, GNOME is expec

Re: Bits from the Release Team: Architecture health check

2014-01-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: > aren't as large of a porting issue). Rather, the question is whether it > is actually viable to separate those services from systemd as init and > port logind to non-Linux, whether that work will be done in time for > jessie, and who is going to do it. S