Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Roland McGrath
> This change is one I can agree with on technical grounds, though it > will cause a great deal of pain in the short term. Have we got any > estimates on exactly how much breakage will result before the change > gets made? Fedora already made the change a full release cycles ago, and Fedora packa

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Roland McGrath
> I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or unnecessary. It is fundamentally wrong because -lfoo means I demand that the initializers of libfoo.so run, whether or not I called anything in it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Roland McGrath
> On 15.11.2010 07:16, Roland McGrath wrote: > yes, OpenSuse is using --as-needed, but not --no-add-needed. That is a pretty nutty choice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.o

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Roland McGrath
> airlied_, does Fedora use --as-needed by default? Fedora 14 too? > mattst88: yes The naming of the options makes people easily confused. --no-add-needed is the only option Fedora's gcc passes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bsd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". T