Re: Debian GNU/FreeBSD

1999-11-22 Thread Per Lundberg
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > My question: how could this project become official? > I guess it should be done after potato release, because too many > packages had to be modified. Yes. It could probably be put into sid right now, though. Talk to the archive maintainers about thi

Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-19 Thread Per Lundberg
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Personally if we're going to do a BSD and use their libc, I think we > should be looking at OpenBSD rather than FreeBSD... , strong > crypto in libc... Nothing stops us from doing both, you know. Personally, I just happen to prefer the FreeBSD kern

Re: Debian FreeBSD

1999-11-19 Thread Per Lundberg
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We have permission to use the name "Linux", we don't have permission > to use the name "FreeBSD" and aren't likely to get it since what > we're doing isn't FreeBSD, it's DebianBSD or something. But DebianBSD is misleading, since it doesn't tell which BS

Re: Progres?

1999-11-19 Thread Per Lundberg
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Well, Debian diskspace is already blowing out (for the archive, not > for installed systems). If the emulation works just as well, we can > save a lot of time by not recompiling. Well, it doesn't work perfectly. Some system calls are missing. I did a l

Re: Debian FreeBSD - experiment

1999-11-18 Thread Per Lundberg
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > FreeBSD-3.3 have master.passwd with additional fields befor GECOS field. > This file have to be compiled to binary form /etc/pwd.db by pwd_db command, > AFAIR. Okay. But there shouldn't really be a problem to debianize this stuff. > Maybe someone wo

Re: Debian FreeBSD - experiment

1999-11-18 Thread Per Lundberg
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > I didn't make any networking package. It is too early for this project. > More important is i.e. base-passwd package, but FreeBSD have completly > different passwd system... How is it different? You're thinking of the passwd.master (or what it's call

Re: Debian FreeBSD - experiment

1999-11-18 Thread Per Lundberg
On 18 Nov 1999, Peter Makholm wrote: > > Well, I think it should be in the main distribution anyway, so people will > > see that it exists and hook up to this list. > Some place in sid along with other unreleased unfinished ports > shouldn't be a problem. Yeah, that was what I had in mind. > Psy

Re: Debian FreeBSD - experiment

1999-11-18 Thread Per Lundberg
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > > Seems pretty awesome! You should talk to the Debian archive maintainers to > > get this onto the main sites. Are you a Debian maintainer? > Yes :) Great. Me too. > But I'm afraid it is too early for getting it to main distribution. > My propositio

Re: Debian FreeBSD - experiment

1999-11-18 Thread Per Lundberg
On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > ftp://ftp.fnet.pl/pub/debian-freebsd/ > There are 80 Debian packages for freebsd-i386 architecture. Seems pretty awesome! You should talk to the Debian archive maintainers to get this onto the main sites. Are you a Debian maintainer?

Re: Progres?

1999-10-27 Thread Per Lundberg
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Jeff Sheinberg wrote: > Why bother porting non-base packages, since FreeBSD has linux > emulation mode? The Linux emulation is not perfect (at least not the one in 3.2, which I tried a while ago). > It seems to me that dpkg and apt are not compatible with BSD > ports. What

Re: glibc

1999-07-19 Thread Per Lundberg
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Steve Price wrote: > # I was more thinking about stuff like dpkg.. :) > Done (well almost see my post with the port). Yeah, I've also done it. > If you haven't already you'll want to look into CVSup. You > can get the whole tree or chunks of it given about two minutes > of

Re: glibc

1999-07-19 Thread Per Lundberg
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Steve Price wrote: > There is one entry in INDEX for every port. If you exclude the > libgnugetopt port itself there are only two that use it. So not > as many are "poorly written" as you might think. I was more thinking about stuff like dpkg.. :) > That is what I wanted.

Re: glibc

1999-07-19 Thread Per Lundberg
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Steve Price wrote: > # As someone told me, I asked on [EMAIL PROTECTED] if there was a glibc > # port to FreeBSD. Of course they started the traditional ranting about how >^ > Of course? I guess I've got quite some prejudices in this case. No offen

Re: glibc

1999-07-19 Thread Per Lundberg
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Gary Kline wrote: > Makes sense to me to take the easier course for our first-cut. > Sure, add GNU getopt() and whatever else that's missing from > the BSD libc. I will do that at the same time as I debianize the libc package. > BTW, I've stayed awa

glibc

1999-07-19 Thread Per Lundberg
As someone told me, I asked on [EMAIL PROTECTED] if there was a glibc port to FreeBSD. Of course they started the traditional ranting about how poor GNU getopt is and stuff like that, but I managed to find out these things: * There doesn't seem to be a glibc port to FreeBSD, so we will probably ha

Re: The project

1999-07-19 Thread Per Lundberg
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > I'd be interested to know what that is (that people prefer to compile > from source). I can't see the advantage myself, especially for large packages > like X and libc. No, me neither. > I spent quite a while today talking to a BSD fan I know about th

Re: The project

1999-07-19 Thread Per Lundberg
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Admittedly I've never done any kernel hacking, but it might be interesting > to try it :-) Actually, I've done quite some kernel hacking (I've written a kernel of my own together with some friends, but that one is really different to this), so I think

Re: The project

1999-07-19 Thread Per Lundberg
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > Well, perhaps we can help to make it work. What doesn't work? Some of the syscalls are unimplemented. 'sysinfo', for example (which is used by dpkg). Perhaps it would be better to improve the Linux emulation, so that the rest of the FreeBSD community w

Re: The project

1999-07-19 Thread Per Lundberg
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Gary Kline wrote: > [[ paring back the noise; esp'ly since you are on a per-minute > line. (used to be same here) ]] Oh, it's okay, I'm not on that line right now. When I'm home, I don't even read my mail. :) > dpkg requires TeX? (?) For compilation, y

Re: The project

1999-07-18 Thread Per Lundberg
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Gary Kline wrote: > > To be honest, I think that's a bad idea. The Linux support is (at least in > > FreeBSD) rather limited, and even if it worked it wouldn't feel as good > > as a "real" system. > Here is where I have no real bias. Since the xwp (WordPerfect-8) >

Re: The project

1999-07-18 Thread Per Lundberg
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Gary Kline wrote: > So far, just some agreements on a few basics, such as using > the BSD (FBSD) Linux-``emultation'' rather than mis-invest > endless months in re-inventing wheels. To be honest, I think that's a bad idea. The Linux support is (at least in F

The project

1999-07-18 Thread Per Lundberg
Hello. I just subscribed to this list since I have been doing some experimental porting of Debian to FreeBSD myself, and would gladly share my experiences to the public. How far are we? What is currently being done?