Re: 3D acceleration

2013-11-28 Thread brunomaximom
Em 2013-11-20 09:01, Robert Millan escreveu: (please keep debian-bsd on CC) On 20/11/2013 05:13, brunomaxi...@openmailbox.org wrote: look Robert, my Xorg.0.log from the kfreebsd-downloader-10.0-BETA3 kernel: http://paste.debian.net/66724/ So it doesn't work with 10.0-BETA3 kernel. Could you t

Re: Cinnamon X Gnome X Mate

2013-11-28 Thread brunomaximom
Em 2013-11-28 20:37, Steven Chamberlain escreveu: Initially I think we just need as many components as possible to be able to build. Then we can compare what we have, to what's used by some non-GNOME Linux desktop distros and see if we can produce a full desktop environment task with what we

Re: Cinnamon X Gnome X Mate

2013-11-28 Thread Steven Chamberlain
Initially I think we just need as many components as possible to be able to build. Then we can compare what we have, to what's used by some non-GNOME Linux desktop distros and see if we can produce a full desktop environment task with what we have. There's a mate-desktop package by Mike Gabriel i

Re: Release sprint results - team changes, auto-rm and arch status

2013-11-28 Thread Steven Chamberlain
On 28/11/13 20:04, Niels Thykier wrote: > kFreeBSD was a technology preview, and has not generated enough user > interest to bring in sufficient install base to continue in this > state. > > We will review this situation after 28th January 2014. > Architectures still causing us concern at that poi

Re: Fwd: Re: fpc op Debian kfreebsd-amd64

2013-11-28 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Robert Millan said: > > Maybe some minor > > fallout in cases where kernel and libc structures differ. (like iirc fdset > > and sigset_t). > > The sigset_t in userland is provided by glibc, but AFAICT it matches the > kernel definition. > > Same for fdset. My memory can

Re: Fwd: Re: fpc op Debian kfreebsd-amd64

2013-11-28 Thread Robert Millan
On 28/11/2013 12:12, Marco van de Voort wrote: >>> The startup code is modified because since the FPC rtl can work both >>> with and without libc, it is seeded with "raw" data. (unprocessed >>> environment etc). Also the frame pointer (EBP/RBP) needs to be nilled >>> because of Pascal's nested proc

Re: Cinnamon X Gnome X Mate

2013-11-28 Thread Robert Millan
On 28/11/2013 05:25, brunomaxi...@openmailbox.org wrote: > Hi guys, > I'm confused about what collaborating... > I'm Gnome user and we know that Gnome Shell has problem with systemd, so > I thought about make the combination Cinnamon + Gnome apps, but Gnome > apps was created for Gnome Shell and ca

Re: Fwd: Re: fpc op Debian kfreebsd-amd64

2013-11-28 Thread Robert Millan
On 28/11/2013 11:08, Marco van de Voort wrote: >> I don't understand this question. Can you ellaborate? > > Libintl is in the glibc binary iirc, but not in freebsd libc. Libdl > functions are in libc under FreeBSD. That's all determined by using glibc. So, we use -ldl and don't use -lintl. > NTP

Re: Fwd: Re: fpc op Debian kfreebsd-amd64

2013-11-28 Thread Marco van de Voort
In our previous episode, Robert Millan said: > > * Where is the startup code (csu aka CRT* files) coming from? Are they > > specific to kfreebsd, similar to linux or to freeBSD? > > I forgot if it's GCC or Glibc. ISTR it comes from a file called > "crtstuff.c" which is built a few times with diffe

Re: A new metric for source package importance in ports

2013-11-28 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Dmitrijs Ledkovs (2013-11-28 01:15:06) > On 28 November 2013 00:04, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > > I also find it interesting to see openjdk-7 listed but not gcj; or even > > gcc-4.8. Was this computed for jessie or sid? > > I guess implicit relationships are not considered: build-e

Re: A new metric for source package importance in ports

2013-11-28 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Steven Chamberlain (2013-11-28 01:04:56) > On 27/11/13 17:58, Johannes Schauer wrote: > > http://mister-muffin.de/p/Gid8.txt > > > > One can see that now the amount of source packages which is needed to build > > the > > rest of the archive is only 383. > > So, there are 383 package