Re: dselect/dpkg/apt

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 01:21:04PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer was heard to say: > If you have all the Debian tools: > > dpkg-source -x PACKAGE-VERSION.dsc > cd PACKAGE-VERSION > dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot Actually, it's even better :) The above requires you to hunt around for the source and

Re: dselect/dpkg/apt

2000-02-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wednesday 2 February 2000, at 0 h 20, the keyboard of Dan Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone tell me the canonical way to compile a deb from the source > stuff (orig tarball, dsc, diff)? Or point me to a description of how to do > it? If you have all the Debian tools: dpkg-sour

Re: dselect/dpkg/apt

2000-02-02 Thread Dan Potter
I recall waay back on Feb 01 when Peter M Kahle wrote: > Well, on Debian you can use a chrooted environment to simulate (for > example) the stable distribution on a box with unstable, so is this a > case where using that jail tool that was mentioned on the list would > help? Probably.. the prob

Re: dselect/dpkg/apt

2000-02-02 Thread Peter M Kahle
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 11:30:31PM -0600, Dan Potter wrote: > I'm going to attempt to kill that other subject line =) > > I guess the next question is how to test dpkg without destroying the BSD > system... ^_^;; Well, on Debian you can use a chrooted environment to simulate (for example) the sta

dselect/dpkg/apt

2000-02-02 Thread Dan Potter
I'm going to attempt to kill that other subject line =) Anyway, I just successfully did a package [U]pdate using dselect/apt and I'm looking at a shiny new package listing with the default Debian packages selected, on my FreeBSD box. I guess the next question is how to test dpkg without destroyin

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Dan Potter
I recall waay back on Feb 01 when Daniel Burrows wrote: > Cool. As you said, it's not as optimal -- but I don't know just how bad > it is :) It's either much less or much more resiliant to a crash of apt > itself > (uncommitted changes will be lost, could be good or bad), and may not be that

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 10:44:05PM -0600, Dan Potter was heard to say: > Actually it looks like it works ok (at least on read-only, I haven't > managed to get far enough through apt to test it fully). It's really brute > force though =). It just reads the whole file into memory and then lets > you

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Dan Potter
I recall waay back on Feb 01 when Daniel Burrows wrote: > It sounds like you didn't get that to work..but if you did, and you got > decent > performance, please forward it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Hurd has > some problems with apt due to the fact that it (the Hurd) lacks an msync() > system ca

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 08:55:02PM -0600, Dan Potter was heard to say: > play. Apt needs to be cleaned up 'cause I really hosed that one trying to > make it not use mmap at all for now. It sounds like you didn't get that to work..but if you did, and you got decent performance, please forward it

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Dan Potter
I recall waay back on Feb 01 when Dan Papasian wrote: > I'll say. The return value and the header files.. shouldn't big that > big of an issue. What, may I ask, does mmap() return on Linux? > (and if anyone says a caddr_t, I'll kill you) It returns a caddr_t of course. ;-) This looks to sum u

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Dan Papasian
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 08:55:02PM -0600, Dan Potter wrote: > Linux -- >#include >#include > >caddr_t mmap(void *start, size_t length, int prot , int >flags, int fd, off_t offset); > > BSD -- > #include > #include > > void * > mmap(void

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Dan Potter
I recall waay back on Feb 01 when Dan Papasian wrote: > Is there a Debian package for every last program? No, there is your > base deb which contains several. Your complaint is that FreeBSD's base > OS is too big. That is debated constantly. Ermm... small correction. There _is_ a Debian packag

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Dan Potter
I recall waay back on Feb 01 when Dan Papasian wrote: > It would have been nice knowing this before I worked up a proof-of-concept > port the other day :) Ack!!! Have we all done that now? =) On the mmap man page, the Linux call is almost a subset of the BSD call. Apparently there is a POSIX sta

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Dan Papasian
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 08:39:56PM -0500, Jeff Sheinberg wrote: > So, show me the port for sendmail. sendmail is in the base OS. MySQL, which you used for your example, is not. > The Debian package maintainer takes care of these `insignificant > details'. Since there is no BSD port of sendmail,

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Jeff Sheinberg
Dan Papasian writes: > On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 02:26:16PM -0500, Jeff Sheinberg wrote: > > The Debian package maintainer insures that upgrading mySQL from a > > prior version goes smoothly. > > > > The Debian package maintainer insures that replacing mySQL with a > > package of equivalent fu

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 04:11:01PM -0500, Dan Papasian wrote: > What do you think the port maintainer does? Actually, one thing I've been wanting to do for awhile is build a variant install (or, more likely, a wrapper for install) which registers what it does in the dpkg database. The package nam

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Dan Papasian
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 07:38:55PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 03:32:30PM -0500, Dan Papasian wrote: > > Bill Jolitz fathered 386BSD. > > Which, as I understand it, was the starting point for NetBSD, FreeBSD > and OpenBSD. When Jolitz abandoned 386BSD, various patchkits ev

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 10:09:57PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > What did Jolitz write? On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 03:32:30PM -0500, Dan Papasian wrote: > Bill Jolitz fathered 386BSD. Which, as I understand it, was the starting point for NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD. -- Raul

Re: Re: Debian BSD.. cool idea

2000-02-02 Thread Dan Papasian
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 05:34:55PM -0600, Steve Price wrote: > # > # Strange, you brag about the freedom of the BSD license, but when > # someone proposes to play with your little toy with its neon `play > # with me tag', you immediately begin to scream that your toy is > # about to be violated by