why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

2004-04-04 Thread Dan Jacobson
Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"? Why can't it just stick with a neutral "Taiwan". Why single out a geographical name and append a political statement to it? Sticks out and looks kind of silly. Who cares what the two governments' official names for Taiwan are. Why thrust Debian

Re: Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Carlos Z.F. Liu
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 05:57:54AM -0700, Anthony Johnson wrote: > You should go back to China mainland and ask for > people there. IIRC, you are NOT located in China > mainland, right? But, I still watch the same CCTV and read the same Chinese newspapers. NO differences. > BTW: Do not compare wind

Bug#242128: Alpha netboot install report

2004-04-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
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Re: [l10n]; change to console-data po files

2004-04-04 Thread Recai Oktas
Alastair, * Alastair McKinstry [2004-04-04 21:50:28+0100] > I have made one addition to the console-data keymaps, which results in a > string addition: > > msgid "trfu" > > This is 'translated' in English as > msgstr "Turkish (F layout)". > > Can translators please check out their translations

Re: debian-installer: how much memory is needed (on other archs than i386) ?

2004-04-04 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Holger Levsen wrote: > Hello, > > from the beta2 announcement: "Support for systems with only 32 MB of memory > (i386 only)." anybody ot an idea what the requirements for other archs (e.g. > powerpc) are ? I guess they should be roughly the same ? About 25 MB for mips. Thiemo -- To UNSUBSC

Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

2004-04-04 Thread John Hasler
Dan Jacobson writes: > Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"? Why can't it just > stick with a neutral "Taiwan". No reason I can think of. -- John Hasler You may treat this work as if it [EMAIL PROTECTED] were in the public domain. Dancing Horse Hill

Re: Removing unused d-i udebs from archive

2004-04-04 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Thiemo Seufer wrote: > > > Thorsten Sauter wrote: > >> > >> Hello d-i peoples, > >> > >> since we have partman now, I'm wondering if it is time to remove some > >> unused packages from the archive. This will reduce the size of available > >> packages for d-i and makes m

Re: [l10n]; change to console-data po files

2004-04-04 Thread Andre Luis Lopes
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 09:50:28PM +0100, Alastair McKinstry wrote: > Hi, > > I have made one addition to the console-data keymaps, which results in a > string addition: > > msgid "trfu" > > This is 'translated' in English as > msgstr "Turkish (F layout)". > > Can translators please check out

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

2004-04-04 Thread Joey Hess
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Bug#242143: boot-floppy: no way to do expert mode boot from floppy on OldWorld PowerMac (at least)

2004-04-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: boot-floppy Severity: normal Subject: boot-floppy: no way to do expert mode boot from floppy on OldWorld PowerMac (at least) On OldWorld PowerPC Macintoshes there is no way for a user to do an "expert" mode boot starting from the boot floppys. I suppose theoretically that one can do thin

Bug#242144: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader

2004-04-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal Subject: installation-reports: OldWorld PowerMac install (sarge) dies trying to install bootloader On OldWorld PowerPC Macs the yaboot bootloader doesn't work. Without resorting to "expert" mode ("DEBCONF_PRIORITY=medium" or better) there is no way

Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

2004-04-04 Thread Katipo
Dan Jacobson wrote: Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"? If this is true, it is an gross understatement to call it a political faux pas. The chinese nationalist movement left China and took over Taiwan (Formosa) during the red campaign. To remove all 'face' from them in this

Processed: reassign 242143 to debian-installer

2004-04-04 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > # Automatically generated email from bts, devscripts version 2.7.95.1 > reassign 242143 debian-installer Bug#242143: boot-floppy: no way to do expert mode boot from floppy on OldWorld PowerMac (at least) Bug reassigned from package `boot-floppy' to `de

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Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

2004-04-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 08:04:23AM +0800, Katipo wrote: > Dan Jacobson wrote: > > >Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"? > > > > [snip] Three thoughts: 1. The UN is not the final arbiter of names of political entities. e.g. except for US veto, Isreal would have ceased to have

Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

2004-04-04 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul E Condon: > We have both. We are inclusive. Inclusive is PC. PC is good. ...^^ Please, don't drag that into this. This was a fairly civilized discussion before that happened. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insuffic

Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

2004-04-04 Thread Anthony Johnson
--- Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of > China"? > Why can't it just stick with a neutral "Taiwan". > Why single out a geographical name and append a > political statement to it? > Sticks out and looks kind of silly. Debian cannot win this argu

Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

2004-04-04 Thread William Ballard
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 07:28:49PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > same. If Debian has a Chinese language version for which the final arbiter > of language usage is a Mainlander, the name in Debian should also be of > that person's choosing. If the final arbiter is a resident/citizen of Here's a w

Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

2004-04-04 Thread John Hasler
Anthony Johnson writes: > We have to choose names from some standards body somewhere... The "standards body" in question is the UN, which has labeled the place "Taiwan, a province of China" for purely political purposes. In normal conversation the place is referred to simply as "Taiwan". Tacking

Re: why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"?

2004-04-04 Thread Miles Bader
Anthony Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Why why must Debian call Taiwan a "Province of China"? Why can't it > > just stick with a neutral "Taiwan". Why single out a geographical > > name and append a political statement to it? Sticks out and looks > > kind of silly. > Debian cannot win

Re: Must debian-installer use iso-codes package when choosing country?

2004-04-04 Thread Joey Hess
Herbert Xu wrote: > Tetralet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > People who install Debian via debian-installer will find that "Taiwan" > > was replaced with "Taiwan, Province of China". > > They may not detect immediately that this country code is based on ISO-3166, > > But they will think that Debian

Re: debian-installer: how much memory is needed (on other archs than i386) ?

2004-04-04 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, > > from the beta2 announcement: "Support for systems with only 32 MB of > > memory (i386 only)." anybody ot an idea what the requirements for other > > archs (e.g. powerpc) are ? I guess they should be roughly the same ? > About 25 MB for mips. Thanks. Is it hopeless to try an install with

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