Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Thom May
Folks. Much of this is probably repeating what has already been said, but here goes. I, either on line or in real life, continually say to people who ask me which distribution of linux to use, "use debian". and they, routinely, say "but the installer is terrifying, and straight out of the dark age

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Thom May
ok, to follow up my own message, I'm thinking this would be for the CD based installer only - most (I'd imagine all) users of the floppy install would be familiar enough with debian to use the old style install. -Thom PGP signature

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Glenn McGrath
Thom May wrote: > > Folks. > Much of this is probably repeating what has already been said, > but here goes. > I, either on line or in real life, continually say to people who > ask me which distribution of linux to use, "use debian". and > they, routinely, say "but the installer is terrifying, a

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Arthur Korn
Hi Thom May schrieb: > With the now working release of gtkfb, and the soon to be > release (hopefully) of curses gtk+, it seems to me that there is > a good opportunity for a "nice" ie, newbie friendly, installer. Why do you people have the idea that a graphical installer in itself is more user

Bug#80325: Installer misreports partition numbers

2001-01-07 Thread Chris Paul
Hi Adam, it took me quite a few days to `find ..` your "flavours" in a path requiring 70 chars ... ;-) There was no vanilla, but the test results of the rest looks really interesting. > ... I need to know what "flavor" you were booting from... So sit down, ...;-) Lets begin with my current l

Re: dbootstrap problem

2001-01-07 Thread Karl Hammar
I saw the same symtoms when booting from cd. So I created floppies instead and booted from them. They worked ok. Regards, /Karl --- Karl HammarAspö Data [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lilla Aspö 2340

Re: Bug#80325: how compact, vanilla and fdisk see the partition table

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Di Carlo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Paul) writes: > Hi Thomas, > as You might have seen I encountered a similar problem) > > I also dont understand everything you said: > > ... The difference is that 'compact' ignores some Linux > > partitions on the extended partition. > Are You sure? Did you try to mou

Re: regarding potato images

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Di Carlo
"J.A. Bezemer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Jim Westveer wrote: > > The debian-cd now in CVS will put boot blocks on > > ALL i386 disks in the following fashion. > > > > CD#1: default kernel from boot-disks(i386) > > CD#2: compact > > CD#3: idepc > > CD#n: default ke

Re: regarding potato images

2001-01-07 Thread Jim Westveer
On 07-Jan-2001 Adam Di Carlo wrote: > "J.A. Bezemer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Jim Westveer wrote: >> Okay. Boot team: be sure to post a note to -cd as soon as you think of other >> interesting flavours ;-) > > Well, there's the udma66 flavor, which is just a vanill

Re: [VA-Debian] Comments from a first-time Debian install.....

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Randolph Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If we do decide to install standard by default Yes, we need to do that. My reading of policy is that standard packages really ought to be installed by default w/o prompting. They are baseline, standard. > i favor the automatically- > do-tasksel -s

Re: debian on compaq proliant 800 witch smar-2sl RAID-card

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Rikard Nilsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > hello > hope this is the adress to mail, if its not, delete or forward to > someone how cares > ive installed debian during the weekend on an compaq proliant 800 with a > smart-2sl RAID card. > the problem is that the installation-program has any suppo

Bug#80325: Installer misreports partition numbers

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Di Carlo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Paul) writes: > it took me quite a few days to `find ..` your "flavours" in a path requiring 70 >chars ... ;-) > > There was no vanilla, but the test results of the rest looks really interesting. Vanilla is the same as "no flavor", that is, the images right in images-

Debian Boot CVS: aph

2001-01-07 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-boot Module name:boot-floppies Changes by: aph 01/01/07 16:37:55 Modified files: scripts/basedisks: termwrap Log message: termwrap won't fail miserably if /etc/environment doesn't exist -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Re: [sumary] Re: unattended install

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Regarding automated install, I've got patched from siterock for automation of the isntall process,a nd that's probably what I'm going to end up using for woody. I suggest looking at their patches from their web site. Sorry, I don't have the URL handy. -- .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://w

Debian Boot CVS: tausq

2001-01-07 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-boot Module name:debian-installer Changes by: tausq 01/01/07 16:44:32 Modified files: tools/cdebconf/src: debconf.conf strutl.c strutl.h tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/bogl: bogl.c tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/slang: slan

Debian Boot CVS: tausq

2001-01-07 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-boot Module name:debian-installer Changes by: tausq 01/01/07 17:19:37 Modified files: tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/slang: slang.c Log message: multiselect widget only text is left now -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: [sumary] Re: unattended install

2001-01-07 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 07:42:20PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote: : :Regarding automated install, I've got patched from siterock for :automation of the isntall process, and that's probably what I'm going :to end up using for woody. :I suggest looking at their patches from their web site. Sorry, I :

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Chris Ruffin
> I had similar thoughts when i read about the gtk framebuffer thing, > although we do now have a framebuffer frontend (bogl) for cdebconf. > > The install will be able to handle a variety of different UI's, text > for worst case senarios and for brail terminals, or curses/slang for > installing

Re: Arm bf problems - termwrap and null strings

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Wookey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've got some Arm boot-floppies (from CVS about 10 days ago ~ 2.2.19) which > nearly work. I've fixed a couple of problems and I'll post diffs here when I > get a set that work. Sure. Do you have (and, if not, want) direct CVS access? > Current problems are

Re: dbootstrap problem

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Richard Giles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi - Please can you help ??? > > I am trying to replace Caldera Open Linux 2.4 with Debian 2.2r2 (from > official CDs). I want to use the exisiting partitions. Dbootstrap > doesn't let me get past > > "Configure Device Driver Modules" > > When I go i

Re: AdvanSys SCSI timeout on 1st kernel boot

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Marc Mongenet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, I am trying to install Debian 2.2r2 from scratch (bootable CDROM > or floppies) but the 2.2.18pre21 kernel is (most of the time ~95%) not > able to recognize my SCSI drives. Here is the interesting part of the > kernel log (booting with Rescue co

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Randolph Chung
> Perhaps moving the fb-based frontend bogl you speak of to gtk-fb > is the answer we're looking for? That'll give us access to all the > features of gtk, which IMHO would be a boon for the UI. First I want to reiterate someone else's comment -- having a GUI (in the sense you seem to be thinkin

Re: [sumary] Re: unattended install

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Di Carlo
"Jonathan D. Proulx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 07:42:20PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > : > :Regarding automated install, I've got patched from siterock for > :automation of the isntall process, and that's probably what I'm going > :to end up using for woody. > > :I s

Re: FW: Right SPARC 2.2.20 floppies on the Debian web site?

2001-01-07 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is a bug in the dboostrap program. I am going to fix it this > evening and get a new set of boot-floppies uploaded. Hmm, ok, well, if you wanna release and upload sources for 2.2.21 that's alright with me. My personal testing indicates that version

Re: FW: Right SPARC 2.2.20 floppies on the Debian web site?

2001-01-07 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 10:51:41PM -0500, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This is a bug in the dboostrap program. I am going to fix it this > > evening and get a new set of boot-floppies uploaded. > > Hmm, ok, well, if you wanna release and upload sources for

Debian Boot CVS: dwhedon

2001-01-07 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master
CVSROOT:/cvs/debian-boot Module name:debian-installer Changes by: dwhedon 01/01/07 21:04:08 Modified files: tools/netcfg : netcfg.c Log message: fixed a segfault found by [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe"

serial install

2001-01-07 Thread Rob
Hello, I apologize in advance if this is not the right list for this question. I would like to be able to do installs on machines that have no monitor, only terminals connected through the serial port. I read in the release notes that this is supported, but I have not been able to find any ad

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Chris Ruffin
> > Perhaps moving the fb-based frontend bogl you speak of to gtk-fb > > is the answer we're looking for? That'll give us access to all the > > features of gtk, which IMHO would be a boon for the UI. > > First I want to reiterate someone else's comment -- having a GUI (in > the sense you seem t

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Randolph Chung
(btw, I got a bounce message on your email address) > I agree with that. But there isn't any reason that this couldn't be > accomplished with a gtk-based interface. of course... > And there are some merits to > using a widget set that more resembles modern computing interfaces, so [n]curses,