Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2003-02-09 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Is anybody actually advocating removing _user_visible_ devfs functionality? my understanding of the argument over on lkml was that people were advocating (1) leaving it in for 2.6 / including a smaller devfs implementation (2) Developing a user-space solution for 2.7 in which case, we would still

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2003-02-09 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 10:07:39AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > It might give us a few new problems: > > - Some platforms do not have working devfs support. drop or add >workaround? this archs uses 2.2 kernels, so we can't currently use d-i on it. there are devfs patches for 2.2 but

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2003-02-09 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Bastian Blank] > we discuss some time about using devfs in the installed system to > avoid mapping the devices which may break things. s390 currently > uses devfs and don't have any problems with it. > devfs is available after the feature freeze of linux 2.6 so it seems > to be availble with this

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2003-02-07 Thread dann frazier
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:30:04PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote: > > While opinions may vary, I wonder if we're really smart to depend on devfs as > a kernel feature for the limited use we need to make of it in the install > process? Or is there some big win from devfs that I haven't understood yet?

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2003-02-07 Thread Thorsten Sauter
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:15:42PM +0100, Martin Sjögren wrote: > Myself I don't know how many things we're using devfs for, but I know > for a fact that I'm using devfs in the floppy-retriever. How do I find > out if and how many floppy drives there are on a system when not using > devfs? With dev

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2003-02-07 Thread Martin Sjögren
fre 2003-02-07 klockan 22.06 skrev Stephen R Marenka: > On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:30:04PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote: > > > me, particularly since I think we'd like debian-installer to work for at least > > 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, if not well beyond. > > Some subarchs (m68k/mac and some sparc?) stil

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2003-02-07 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 01:30:04PM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote: > me, particularly since I think we'd like debian-installer to work for at least > 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, if not well beyond. Some subarchs (m68k/mac and some sparc?) still don't have working 2.4 kernels. Are we abandoning installation

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2003-02-07 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian Blank) writes: > we discuss some time about using devfs in the installed system to avoid > mapping the devices which may break things. s390 currently uses devfs > and don't have any problems with it. > devfs is available after the feature freeze of linux 2.6 so it seems

debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2003-02-07 Thread Bastian Blank
hi folks we discuss some time about using devfs in the installed system to avoid mapping the devices which may break things. s390 currently uses devfs and don't have any problems with it. devfs is available after the feature freeze of linux 2.6 so it seems to be availble with this version. i ask

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2002-12-09 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 01:56:36PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > Bernhard R. Link wrote on Mon Dec 09, 2002 um 11:44:28AM: > > > This design decision could exclude the segment between desktops and > > embedded things, where the only ways out are are serial-cards (and > > maybe some othe

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2002-12-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Bernhard R. Link wrote on Mon Dec 09, 2002 um 11:44:28AM: > This design decision could exclude the segment between desktops and > embedded things, where the only ways out are are serial-cards (and > maybe some other things, for which getting a initial console would be > even harder). Ma

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2002-12-09 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021209 11:07]: > It would be the best practice for us. Some strange multi-serial-port card is > generally not essential for the installation, but missing some important > device node of a harddisk is. Look at the current situation with /dev/i2o/hdX > devices, we

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2002-12-09 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include Bernhard R. Link wrote on Mon Dec 09, 2002 um 10:56:39AM: > devfs also seem to have some problems with some drivers. I remember a > situation in the local lug here, where a multi-serial-card did not > want to run together with devfs, even after some changes to the module's > source. > >

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2002-12-09 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021208 22:48]: > we discuss about devfs or not devfs in the installed system. > we currently map any devfs path to the non devfs variant. the count of > map definitions will grow if we want to support more special hardware. > so the question is, why won't we use

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2002-12-08 Thread Jochen Voss
Hi Eduard, On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 11:28:33PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Rob Bradford [Sun, Dec 08 2002, 10:08:26PM]: > > > Devfs has not really had a great welcome in the Linux community as a > > whole and it looks likely that devfs support will become depracated in >

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2002-12-08 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Rob Bradford [Sun, Dec 08 2002, 10:08:26PM]: > Devfs has not really had a great welcome in the Linux community as a > whole and it looks likely that devfs support will become depracated in Any details? Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- Bei MacOS X-Air ist das abe

Re: debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2002-12-08 Thread Rob Bradford
On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 21:47, Bastian Blank wrote: > hi folks > > we discuss about devfs or not devfs in the installed system. > we currently map any devfs path to the non devfs variant. the count of > map definitions will grow if we want to support more special hardware. > so the question is, why

debian-installer - using devfs in the installed system

2002-12-08 Thread Bastian Blank
hi folks we discuss about devfs or not devfs in the installed system. we currently map any devfs path to the non devfs variant. the count of map definitions will grow if we want to support more special hardware. so the question is, why won't we use devfs on the installed systems? bastian -- Vul