On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 07:59:17PM -0300, Carlos Barros wrote:
> That reminds me a issue... Is there a vendor selling debian potato
> including a printed manual about the instalation and upgrade documents?
>
> Some people want a book...
yes.
In Germany you can buy a 'Debian Box' with a CD-Set (
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 01:01:40PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 05:22:18AM +0200, Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > > > > > > One thing not so clear is the location of rescue disks and the documents
>for
> > > > > > > a person new to debian.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I agree with th
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 05:22:18AM +0200, Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > > > > > One thing not so clear is the location of rescue disks and the documents
>for
> > > > > > a person new to debian.
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree with this. Location of rescue disks is really hard to guess.
> > > >
> > > >
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 12:15:43AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 12:11:21AM +0200, Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > > > > > > - Identify themselves as the debian rescue floppy which is certianly
> > > > > > > confusing if you don't read documentation.
> > > > > > ^^^
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 12:11:21AM +0200, Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > > > > > - Identify themselves as the debian rescue floppy which is certianly
> > > > > > confusing if you don't read documentation.
> > > > > ^^^
> > > >
> > > > > Imagine my sympathy.
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 04:41:56PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 02:43:25PM +0200, Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > > > > - Identify themselves as the debian rescue floppy which is certianly
> > > > > confusing if you don't read documentation.
> > > > ^^^
On Fri, Sep 15, 2000 at 02:43:25PM +0200, Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> > > > - Identify themselves as the debian rescue floppy which is certianly
> > > > confusing if you don't read documentation.
> > > ^^^
> >
> > > Imagine my sympathy. This is someone pass
> Maybe you've never had to use this bootdisk for rescue reasons. Try
> typing `rescue' at bootprompt. ;-)
It seems to me that it is more likely that users will have read the
documentation if they need the rescue disk then if they need a boot
(in the sense of install) disk.
Thus, it should be la
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 11:26:58AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
>
> Now, there are definitely places where the install could be improved,
> (this is news?), but I'm really tempted to ignore people who can't be
> bothered to read the owners manual. This is an operating system, not a
> toaster.
>
Steve Bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [1] Thought we'd need driver disk too, from the docs, and burned it.
> Didn't need it. The docs weren't perfect but erred in the direction of
> not leaving us a disk short nor explaining a lot of if-then-else cases.
> The time saved not reading all the
Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 07:59:17PM -0300, Carlos Barros wrote:
> > One thing not so clear is the location of rescue disks and the documents for
> > a person new to debian.
>
> I agree with this. Location of rescue disks is really hard to guess.
Reall
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 07:59:17PM -0300, Carlos Barros wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 11:26:58AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
>
> >
> > On 14-Sep-00, 02:58 (CDT), Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > If you ignore all of his nasty mudslinging, his gripes are the
> > > following
15.09.2000 pisze Lauri Tischler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Yeap, I have never understood why the initial bootdisk is called
> 'rescue' The floppy you make at the end of installation should be
> called 'rescue' not the 'bootfloppy'
Maybe you've never had to use this bootdisk for rescue reasons. Try
t
Joey Hess wrote:
>
> If you ignore all of his nasty mudslinging, his gripes are the
> following:
>
> The boot-floppies:
> - Identify themselves as the debian rescue floppy which is certianly
> confusing if you don't read documentation.
Yeap, I have never understood why the initial bootdisk is
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 07:07:51PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
>
> C'mon -- I'd have to throw the bozo bit on this guy completely
> ignoring Potato. I agree with Dale and I'm the last to say Potato
> installation is perfect -- but when it works, it works pretty damn
> well, no need to run dselec
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 11:49:25PM -0400, Jacob Kuntz wrote:
> from the secret journal of Craig Sanders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > also, if you've done several dozen installs before and you know what
> > the path is, typing it in manually is a LOT faster than waiting
> > for the installer to search
from the secret journal of Craig Sanders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> also, if you've done several dozen installs before and you know what
> the path is, typing it in manually is a LOT faster than waiting for the
> installer to search the slow CD-ROM filesystem. i've taken advantage of
> this convenienc
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:17:53AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> Why should the user even be involved in any of these
> questions. It's on the CD. If the installation
> program doesn't find it in the "default" location
> (/instmnt/debian/dists/stable/main/disks-i386/current for the Intel
> install)
from the secret journal of Steve Greenland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Imagine my sympathy. This is someone passing himself off as a reviewer,
> but he can't be bothered to read the docs?
>
> Now, there are definitely places where the install could be improved,
> (this is news?), but I'm really tempte
from the secret journal of Carlos Barros ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> That reminds me a issue... Is there a vendor selling debian potato
> including a printed manual about the instalation and upgrade documents?
read his complaints, he's not installing potato. he mentions that the
installer searches the
C'mon -- I'd have to throw the bozo bit on this guy completely
ignoring Potato. I agree with Dale and I'm the last to say Potato
installation is perfect -- but when it works, it works pretty damn
well, no need to run dselect or any of that. When it doesn't work,
it's hell.
--
.Adam Di [EM
"TODD WITTER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I must say I am not a novice but I am still a bit fresh in the linux-
> world. I have installed many distros and most of them are much
> easier (less steps) than debian but over all, it's fine. I am up and
> running -- a hit on the first pitch. Sur
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, I would be willing to agree with almost anyone who says that our
> install sucks. Almost every screen has some cryptic comment that makes
> sense to me, because I understand the context, but must be pure greek to
> anyone not so familiar.
I would
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 11:26:58AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote:
>
> On 14-Sep-00, 02:58 (CDT), Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > If you ignore all of his nasty mudslinging, his gripes are the
> > following:
> >
> > The boot-floppies:
> > - Identify themselves as the debian rescue
Well, I would be willing to agree with almost anyone who says that our
install sucks. Almost every screen has some cryptic comment that makes
sense to me, because I understand the context, but must be pure greek to
anyone not so familiar.
However, my biggest complaint has never been addressed as
On 14-Sep-00, 02:58 (CDT), Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you ignore all of his nasty mudslinging, his gripes are the
> following:
>
> The boot-floppies:
> - Identify themselves as the debian rescue floppy which is certianly
> confusing if you don't read documentation.
On 14 Sep 00, at 18:00, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> This is a pretty nasty review of the installer
>
> http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2000-09/lw-09-vcontrol_2.html
I must say I am not a novice but I am still a bit fresh in the linux-
world. I have installed many distros and most of them
> Glenn McGrath wrote:
> > This is a pretty nasty review of the installer
> >
> > http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2000-09/lw-09-vcontrol_2.html
Oh yes, the installer...
One of my friends, who is a total Linux/Unix novice, (but manages to keep
Win98
in usable state) said he'd like to try
Glenn McGrath wrote:
> This is a pretty nasty review of the installer
>
> http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2000-09/lw-09-vcontrol_2.html
>
> "I know. I can't be critical of Debian because it is an all-volunteer
> effort and all of the software used is pure, free, and unfettered. Sure,
> i
This is a pretty nasty review of the installer
http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/lw-2000-09/lw-09-vcontrol_2.html
"I know. I can't be critical of Debian because it is an all-volunteer
effort and all of the software used is pure, free, and unfettered. Sure,
installing it may be a little harder
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