Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-13 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi Joey, Le 06/09/2014 18:44, Joey Hess a écrit : MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: - XFCE is not at all so far, mainly due to openbox and not link on GTK or Nt toolkits. I'm rather confused by this, since openbox is not the window manager of xfce (it's used by lxde actually), and since xfce uses g

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 20:14:20 +0200, a écrit : > Samuel Thibault, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 15:03:09 +0200, a écrit : > > After that bug is fixed, xfce4-session indeed starts at-spi-bus-launcher > > and at-spi2-registryd, but that's only the server part of the > > accessibility stack. orca

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sun 07 Sep 2014 15:03:09 +0200, a écrit : > After that bug is fixed, xfce4-session indeed starts at-spi-bus-launcher > and at-spi2-registryd, but that's only the server part of the > accessibility stack. orca also needs to have been installed (currently > it is not), and be star

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-07 Thread Robert Thomas Hayes Link
Dear All: First, thanks for keeping debian the best darned os there is. Second, I've some artwork I'd be happy to package up as a theme for jessie, with an eye towards two objectives: Testing "10ft UI", generally, learning to be a best-practces upstream for debian, specifically. I also publish a

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Joey Hess, le Sat 06 Sep 2014 12:44:29 -0400, a écrit : > When I select "Enable assitive technologies" in > xfce4-accessability-settings, it claims that it will "start the required > applications for screen readers and magnifiers". But if it does, I can't > tell. It doesn't. First, due to a bug i

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-06 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, Sorry, I believed they used this base. What is a fact noawadays, it is that the a11y roadmap on the wiki is still here and not followed. So, if based on GTK+, it will have today the same issues as LXDE, that is, only work with hacks and a big post-setting work. The devs and orca devs said

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-06 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, I'll test again xfce to see if the option you mention starts software such as Orca. I'm in dubt, but I will try to be sure. Regards, Le 06/09/2014 18:44, Joey Hess a écrit : MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: - XFCE is not at all so far, mainly due to openbox and not link on GTK or Nt toolkit

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-06 Thread Joey Hess
MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: > - XFCE is not at all so far, mainly due to openbox and not link on GTK or Nt > toolkits. I'm rather confused by this, since openbox is not the window manager of xfce (it's used by lxde actually), and since xfce uses gtk extensively. When I select "Enable assitive te

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-06 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Sat, 06 Sep 2014 00:25:05 +0200, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote: >- XFCE is not at all so far, mainly due to openbox and not link on GTK >or Nt toolkits. Xfce has nothing to do with openbox, and it does link GTK+. - I have a pretty hard time interpreting this answer. -- Andreas Rönnquist mailing

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
BTW, I would like to emphasize that it's very good news that tasksel people care about accessibility for the default choices, that's really good for getting mainstream accessibility! Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-06 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Sat 06 Sep 2014 00:25:05 +0200, a écrit : > I don't know exactly what's expected (should 9e an]ier here? on the wiki? > etc)? I have filled the wiki with a summary of your answer. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-05 Thread MENGUAL Jean-Philippe
Hi, I don't know exactly what's expected (should 9e an]ier here? on the wiki? etc)? Anyway: - gnome seems to be accessible now, especially 3.14 release. I'm not sure it's friendly for users with low visual capabilities, and easily usable with the keyboard, but at least there are no critical

accessibility of jessie desktops

2014-09-05 Thread Joey Hess
Accessibility is probably the most important issue to consider when choosing the default desktop for jessie. So, the tasksel maintainers request a short report from the accessibility team: Please rank the degree of the accessibility of each desktop from -1 to +1. For more on the process we're us