Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-25 Thread Claus Färber
Vassilis Grigoriadis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote: > According to the EU Resolution FYROM cannot have the name Macedonia. It's not a EU Resolution. The Council of Europe (www.coe.int) is not (part of) the European Union but an independent international organisation, of which the FYR Macedonia

Re: Re: Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread Vassilis Grigoriadis
AIL PROTECTED]> To: Vassilis Grigoriadis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:04:03 +0100 Subject: Re: Re: Two Macedonias On 2004-09-23 11:33:49 +0100 Vassilis Grigoriadis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sorry to say so, but if > Debian does not comply to the resolutio

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 12:33:19PM +0300, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: > > If this needs to be > changed, I'd prefer the distiction to be made, 'Republic of > Macedonia' would be far better and avoid unwanted comments from both > sides. I am sure that nobody from Republic of Macedonia will c

Re: Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-09-23 11:33:49 +0100 Vassilis Grigoriadis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sorry to say so, but if Debian does not comply to the resolution of the foreign ministers of the EU than i will be in the unpleasent position to bring the subject to the EU court. Matthew Garrett has already poi

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
Since, my comments displeased some people who were brave enough to accuse me of 'selling my country', I hereby denounce all 'authority' with regards to such matters. Feel free to decide whatever you like, I prefer to spend my time in some actually useful area, for example, complete the greek su

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Vassilis Grigoriadis wrote: According to the EU Resolution FYROM cannot have the name Macedonia. If you plan to use this name then you have to add in a parenthesis the word Slav: Macedonia (Slav) I (as a Slavic) think that this name is very good. Regards, ogi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

Re: Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread Vassilis Grigoriadis
IL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:44:26 +0200 Subject: Re: Two Macedonias > > 2) use the names 'Republic Macedonia' and 'Greek Macedonia'. > > I like that one, but, as Steve Langasek said, in the namespace of > autonomo

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread John Summerfield
Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: On ÎÎÎ 23 ÎÎÏ 2004 11:44, Christian Perrier wrote: 2) use the names 'Republic Macedonia' and 'Greek Macedonia'. I like that one, but, as Steve Langasek said, in the namespace of autonomous territories, there is no collision at all. Well, in my opini

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
On ÎÎÎ 23 ÎÎÏ 2004 11:44, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > 2) use the names 'Republic Macedonia' and 'Greek Macedonia'. > > > > I like that one, but, as Steve Langasek said, in the namespace of > > autonomous territories, there is no collision at all. > > Well, in my opinion, if we decide changing F

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread Christian Perrier
> > 2) use the names 'Republic Macedonia' and 'Greek Macedonia'. > > I like that one, but, as Steve Langasek said, in the namespace of > autonomous territories, there is no collision at all. Well, in my opinion, if we decide changing FYROM to something in iso-codes (and thus, as a direct conseq

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Konstantinos Margaritis wrote: I would really like to know why this looks funny to you, but I'll refrain from starting such a discussion in these lists. If you indeed have a reason, I'd be interested to know it, please mail me privately. I know that the history of Macedonia is taught differently

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread Konstantinos Margaritis
On ÎÎÎ 23 ÎÎÏ 2004 10:39, Ognyan Kulev wrote: > siward wrote: > > I think the people of Greek Macedonia have a different objection > > : they were always called Macedonia, > > and now another region is trying to take their name away from > > them, which is offensive. > > This makes me laugh. I w

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-23 Thread Ognyan Kulev
siward wrote: I think the people of Greek Macedonia have a different objection : they were always called Macedonia, and now another region is trying to take their name away from them, which is offensive. This makes me laugh. It is possible that the peope of their northernly neighbour state

Re: Two Macedonias

2004-09-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 03:45:50AM +0200, siward wrote: > Hi all, > I think Debian has only 2 choices here : > 1) use the names 'Republic Macedonia' and 'Macedonia'. > 2) use the names 'Republic Macedonia' and 'Greek Macedonia'. I don't see a reason for Debian to use any name at all for the Gr

Two Macedonias

2004-09-22 Thread siward
ssible by their perception of them being part of a people that are 'Macedonians', that therefore obviously live in 'Macedonia'. The reality of the matter is that while formerly these two Macedonias existed in two separate namespaces, the Republic Macedonia has recently entere