Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-12 Thread Adam Di Carlo
David Whedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What I saw of gtk-fb looked really neat, pretty, etc. In fact, the > first thing that came to my mind was, "Wouldn't that look neat for > debian-installer". I haven't looked at the bogl front end, so I > can't compare how they 'look'. I think it would

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-11 Thread Chris Ruffin
> It's hard to tell right now what is going to make sense as far as a > GUI front end, as we've seen by this discussion. I think we're converging on what would make sense. > What I saw of gtk-fb looked really neat, pretty, etc. In fact, the > first thing that came to my mind was, "Wouldn't that

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-11 Thread Chris Ruffin
> So, if it is going to be restructured, I'd like to find these features > on the new one too. I don't think a restructuring is in order, other the one that has been ongoing for a while. Those features will still be in place, if I understand the way the new installer works at this point. I don'

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-11 Thread Chris Ruffin
> GTK is nice, but it's not going on a floppy. This will. OK, so what about being the "deluxe" installation UI on CD/broadband installs as Randolph has suggested? The question here is whether there is a significant benefit from using the frame buffer as opposed to using X. I think there is. >

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-09 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 03:30:23PM +0100, Luca De_Vitis wrote: > I mean: you (I hope to join and help you ASAP) should try to make the > smallest, feturefull engine you can, and provide as many front-end and > back-end as possible and let other to choose what to build together for the > installati

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-09 Thread David Whedon
It's hard to tell right now what is going to make sense as far as a GUI front end, as we've seen by this discussion. What I saw of gtk-fb looked really neat, pretty, etc. In fact, the first thing that came to my mind was, "Wouldn't that look neat for debian-installer". I haven't looked at the b

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-09 Thread Luca De_Vitis
Hi all, well, I've installed hundreds of debian to friends and university colleagues, done seminaries about Linux installation (on debian), and every time i put emphasis on the installation features i didn't find in any installation system: - let user make their choice. - let user understand wha

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:52:51AM -0500, Chris Ruffin wrote: > From what I gather today after playing around with gtk-fb today is > that you would have to have the appropriate versions of several libraries > available- the gtk & gdk libs, compiled for frame buffer support, > glib, the pango libs

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Randolph Chung
(btw, I got a bounce message on your email address) > I agree with that. But there isn't any reason that this couldn't be > accomplished with a gtk-based interface. of course... > And there are some merits to > using a widget set that more resembles modern computing interfaces, so [n]curses,

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Chris Ruffin
> > Perhaps moving the fb-based frontend bogl you speak of to gtk-fb > > is the answer we're looking for? That'll give us access to all the > > features of gtk, which IMHO would be a boon for the UI. > > First I want to reiterate someone else's comment -- having a GUI (in > the sense you seem t

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Randolph Chung
> Perhaps moving the fb-based frontend bogl you speak of to gtk-fb > is the answer we're looking for? That'll give us access to all the > features of gtk, which IMHO would be a boon for the UI. First I want to reiterate someone else's comment -- having a GUI (in the sense you seem to be thinkin

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Chris Ruffin
> I had similar thoughts when i read about the gtk framebuffer thing, > although we do now have a framebuffer frontend (bogl) for cdebconf. > > The install will be able to handle a variety of different UI's, text > for worst case senarios and for brail terminals, or curses/slang for > installing

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Arthur Korn
Hi Thom May schrieb: > With the now working release of gtkfb, and the soon to be > release (hopefully) of curses gtk+, it seems to me that there is > a good opportunity for a "nice" ie, newbie friendly, installer. Why do you people have the idea that a graphical installer in itself is more user

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Glenn McGrath
Thom May wrote: > > Folks. > Much of this is probably repeating what has already been said, > but here goes. > I, either on line or in real life, continually say to people who > ask me which distribution of linux to use, "use debian". and > they, routinely, say "but the installer is terrifying, a

Re: Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Thom May
ok, to follow up my own message, I'm thinking this would be for the CD based installer only - most (I'd imagine all) users of the floppy install would be familiar enough with debian to use the old style install. -Thom PGP signature

Thoughts on the installer (early)

2001-01-07 Thread Thom May
Folks. Much of this is probably repeating what has already been said, but here goes. I, either on line or in real life, continually say to people who ask me which distribution of linux to use, "use debian". and they, routinely, say "but the installer is terrifying, and straight out of the dark age