On Saturday, October 30, 2004, at 06:07 AM, Sebastiaan Molenaar wrote:
On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 06:54, Rick Thomas wrote:
ROM compatible disk and CD drivers. b) They can put up with the
vagaries of Open firmware and quik for their particular hardware.
Personally, I think alternative (b) is not vi
On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 06:54, Rick Thomas wrote:
> ROM compatible disk and CD drivers. b) They can put up with the
> vagaries of Open firmware and quik for their particular hardware.
> Personally, I think alternative (b) is not viable either -- it's
> just too much pain for anyone to put up
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 01:54:53AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Let me see if I've got this right...
[ Massive snip ]
Yes, that looks accurate to me.
> I don't think that alternative (a) is going to happen. There just
> isn't the critical mass to get such a project off the ground.
You'll not
On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 04:53 PM, Brad Boyer wrote:
To support starting from just a Debian CD on all oldworld boxes as well
as install a bootable system, we need to do the following:
1) Write disk drivers for SCSI and IDE (both HD and CD-ROM)
2) License the patches from Apple (or somehow re
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 01:45:10PM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote:
> Booting from floppy every time is a pain -- especially since floppies
> tend to go bad (wear out, actually) over time. But it's a possible
> option in the rare case when you haven't got access to any MacOS{89}
> install CD.
>
> But th
On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 12:33, Brad Boyer wrote:
> Would we be able to use the patch drivers if someone convinced
> Apple to give us permission to redistribute them? This is old,
> obsolete stuff, after all. If we could even put them in a special,
> non-free package, it could be usable.
I'll see wh
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 01:29:47AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Bottom line question... Does the Apple licensing requirement for
> the drivers and patches mean that (as a practical matter) we'll
> never be able to write a "free" miboot that can boot off
> "partitioned media"?
Well, I wouldn't sa
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Brad Boyer wrote:
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:50:31AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
I may be mistaken, but I believe that
Well, it's not really that simple. I'll try to explain as I go
along in the message.
Thanks Brad! the extra detail really helps.
Bottom
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:50:31AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
> I may be mistaken, but I believe that, when booting from a hard
> disk (not a floppy), miboot depends on having it's early stages
> loaded by the Apple OldWorld Boot ROM code, which needs the
> afore-mentioned patches to do its job.
On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 01:48 PM, Sven Luther wrote:
Notice that if we manage to free miboot, a miboot kernel on a special
partition may be one solution for 2.6.8 kernels with initrd.
The situation may be worse than we thought. Take a look at Apple
Tech Note 1189 which is available at
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