Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Gaijin, le Tue 31 Mar 2009 11:23:41 -0700, a écrit : > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:09:35AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > That said, activation of accessibility could be done by a special > > > > hotkey that the bootloader recognizes for booting a particular image > > Is Alt+PrtScr ava

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Gaijin
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:09:35AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > That said, activation of accessibility could be done by a special > > > hotkey that the bootloader recognizes for booting a particular image Is Alt+PrtScr available for it? Seems like it would be the perfect key combo.

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Samuel Thibault writes: > Ferenc Wagner, le Tue 31 Mar 2009 10:57:58 +0200, a écrit : >> Samuel Thibault writes: >> >> > That said, activation of accessibility could be done by a special >> > hotkey that the bootloader recognizes for booting a particular image >> >> I don't think syslinux has

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Frans Pop writes: > However, having a 2MB _incremental_ initrd that is chainloaded only if a > specific boot option is selected would be acceptable, especially if other > accessibility additions were moved there as well. Syslinux can load multiple initramfs images all right. The later images

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frans Pop, le Tue 31 Mar 2009 12:42:30 +0200, a écrit : > BTW, library reduction should be looked at for libs added to support this. > As everything that depends on them should be included in the initrd, > removing unused symbols could be worthwhile. This can mean .pic files > need to be added t

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Frans Pop, le Tue 31 Mar 2009 12:23:26 +0200, a écrit : > On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Why are we providing framebuffer drivers for a graphical installer? > > That's insane too. As I reported earlier the added size to the initrd > > for sound+speech synthesizer is 2MB. > >

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > [1] Just unpack the additional udebs into a different tree while > letting library reduction include both trees, as we already do for > EXTRAUDEBS. Well, it's probably going to be a bit more complex than that as I suspect mklibs may copy any libraries

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Why are we providing framebuffer drivers for a graphical installer? > That's insane too. As I reported earlier the added size to the initrd > for sound+speech synthesizer is 2MB. Which is an increase by 1/6! The main issue for me is that it make

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Frans Pop, le Tue 31 Mar 2009 11:14:23 +0200, a écrit : > On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote: > > I'm starting to think that we could benefit of a specific flavour for > > it. What others think? > > IMO sound support is completely outside the normal scope of the installer > a

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote: > I'm starting to think that we could benefit of a specific flavour for > it. What others think? IMO sound support is completely outside the normal scope of the installer and substantially increasing the size of the initrd and memory requirements

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ferenc Wagner, le Tue 31 Mar 2009 10:57:58 +0200, a écrit : > Samuel Thibault writes: > > > That said, activation of accessibility could be done by a special > > hotkey that the bootloader recognizes for booting a particular image > > I don't think syslinux has a feature like this... Apart from

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Samuel Thibault writes: > That said, activation of accessibility could be done by a special > hotkey that the bootloader recognizes for booting a particular image I don't think syslinux has a feature like this... Apart from the ESC a11y Enter combination, of course. -- Feri. -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-31 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Cc-ing debian-accessibility as it becomes less technical. Otavio Salvador, le Tue 31 Mar 2009 02:09:58 -0300, a écrit : > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Samuel Thibault > > I'm just wondering whether it's really worth spending time on > > it instead of other things (the waste is probably

Re: d-i kernel sound drivers selection in kernel-wedge

2009-03-30 Thread Otavio Salvador
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > As a follow-up to thread `software speech synthesis in d-i?', I'm > wondering about the kernel sound drivers and kernel-wedge. > > I had started writing a sound-pcm-modules file that would include > drivers for boards that suppor