* Behdad Esfahbod
| On 11 Jun 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote:
|
| > On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Arash Zeini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| >
| > > I am not sure about this. I am copying one of the developers of
| > > freebidi to have his statement.
| >
| > Thanks.
|
| The current fribidi library is about 64
On Wednesday 12 June 2002 07:27, David Kimdon wrote:
> I'm cc'ing debian-boot.
OK.
> Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:29:31AM +0430 wrote:
> > On Tdiscuss this today.uesday 11 June 2002 17:51, David Kimdon wrote:
> > > Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 12:20:35PM - wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Behdad Esfah
I'm cc'ing debian-boot.
Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:29:31AM +0430 wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday 11 June 2002 17:51, David Kimdon wrote:
>
> > Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 12:20:35PM - wrote:
> > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > The current fribidi library is about 64
While admitting floppies are almost entirely worthless, I have 50
servers without CDs but with floppies all running Debian, I'd hate to
have to rebuild them all.
Jeff
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"Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My reasoning is there will be so little use of floppies from here on out.
> CD's are ubiquitous, the energy we spend making the installer fit in
> 1.4MB would be far better spent making our CD (and mini-CD) installation
> flawless, and concentrating
>On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Would it be possible to provide a floppy whose job was to find the iso
>> on the hard disk and run it? So all you would need to do is download the
>> iso using an older OS.
>
>Most computers today are buyable naked or with non-free operating sys
On Tuesday 11 June 2002 22:59, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Arash Zeini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Your point is understandable, but I think abondening other languages or
> > not advancing the technology due to size limitations of a floppy is not
> > really worth it.
>
> So we sho
On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Arash Zeini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your point is understandable, but I think abondening other languages or not
> advancing the technology due to size limitations of a floppy is not really
> worth it.
So we should have easily buildable install media for different siz
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Would it be possible to provide a floppy whose job was to find the iso
> on the hard disk and run it? So all you would need to do is download the
> iso using an older OS.
Most computers today are buyable naked or with non-free operating system.
I
On Tuesday 11 June 2002 18:43, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We spend so much energy keeping the installer within a floppy's size. I
> > move to abandon that silly goal for d-i, and simply refer folks to
> > boot-floppies for floppy instal
>Do you have a CD-Writer? Maybe. But I don't in 2002, and neither do
>several of my friends. So, you're moving that I'll be unable to install
>Debian without ordering a CD?
Would it be possible to provide a floppy whose job was to find the iso
on the hard disk and run it? So all you would need t
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > CD writers are not
> >
>
> Well, they are becoming so.
Wait until they *are* so
> No, I don't have one myself. In the year
> I've been working with boot-floppies, I've done all my installations
> by downloading packages over
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 02:13:32PM -, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > We spend so much energy keeping the installer within a floppy's size. I
> > move to abandon that silly goal for d-i, and simply refer folks to
> > boot-floppies f
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 03:05:02PM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 14:46, Chris Tillman wrote:
> > We spend so much energy keeping the installer within a floppy's size. I
> > move to abandon that silly goal for d-i, and simply refer folks to
> > boot-floppies for floppy ins
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We spend so much energy keeping the installer within a floppy's size. I
> move to abandon that silly goal for d-i, and simply refer folks to
> boot-floppies for floppy installations. It's not like it's dead and
> buried, and it'
On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 14:46, Chris Tillman wrote:
> We spend so much energy keeping the installer within a floppy's size. I
> move to abandon that silly goal for d-i, and simply refer folks to
> boot-floppies for floppy installations. It's not like it's dead and
> buried, and it's a good match
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 06:21:21AM -0700, David Kimdon wrote:
> For reference we'd like to be able to support installation of a 1.4Mb
> floppy. Such a floppy fills up pretty fast, but we also will support
> CD installs. With a CD you have lots mor espace.
We spend so much energy keeping the in
Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 12:20:35PM - wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The current fribidi library is about 64kb. I guess the next
> > version with arabic shaping will be something about 75kb.
>
> Thanks a lot for the data point!
> I'm not sure wha
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The current fribidi library is about 64kb. I guess the next
> version with arabic shaping will be something about 75kb.
Thanks a lot for the data point!
I'm not sure what this means for d-i though. Tolleg?
> > To work against f
On 11 Jun 2002, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Arash Zeini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I am not sure about this. I am copying one of the developers of freebidi to
> > have his statement.
>
> Thanks.
The current fribidi library is about 64kb. I guess the next
version with ara
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Arash Zeini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not sure about this. I am copying one of the developers of freebidi to
> have his statement.
Thanks.
> I am asking these questions since we are considering to (possibly) base a new
> distribution on Debian.
Great!
I am intere
Hi,
Thanks for the replies.
On Tuesday 11 June 2002 10:29, Moshe Zadka wrote:
> Nothing is changed in boot-floppies, and boot-floppies is a dead-end
> anyway. There is still some argument about what to do in Debian-installer,
> but at least i18n-wise the situation is better, since we're just us
On 11 Jun 2002, Philip Blundell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, cool. What will d-i do about non-UTF8-capable screens and serial
> lines, force the use of English?
Reencode if it can, I presume.
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* Philip Blundell
| On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 08:17, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > d-i will use UTF8 as the one and only supported encoding. Having
| > talked with dancer and moshez on IRC, this seems safe enough to do.
|
| Okay, cool. What will d-i do about non-UTF8-capable screens and serial
| lin
On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 08:17, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> d-i will use UTF8 as the one and only supported encoding. Having
> talked with dancer and moshez on IRC, this seems safe enough to do.
Okay, cool. What will d-i do about non-UTF8-capable screens and serial
lines, force the use of English?
p
* Philip Blundell
| On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 22:59, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > We want to support UTF-8. Help is needed in implementing it; there is
| > no point in us going into the same traps twice.
|
| I can't think of any real traps that boot-floppies fell into. Most of
| the problems we had
On Tue, 11 Jun 2002, Arash Zeini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a while back I had asked question regarding Bidi and RTL support for the boot
> procedur ein Debian.
> Has anything changed with the new release of Debian (and maybe slang?!?!)?
> Bidi and RTL support may still need to be implement
On Mon, 2002-06-10 at 22:59, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> We want to support UTF-8. Help is needed in implementing it; there is
> no point in us going into the same traps twice.
I can't think of any real traps that boot-floppies fell into. Most of
the problems we had were either due to poor / nonex
* Philip Blundell
| We might possibly get base-config i18n into a woody point release but I
| wouldn't bet on it. There is no prospect of bidi support appearing in
| this codebase.
You won't.
| Right now I don't know what the situation is with i18n in
| debian-installer, either the status rig
On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 02:01, Arash Zeini wrote:
> a while back I had asked question regarding Bidi and RTL support for the boot
> procedur ein Debian.
> Has anything changed with the new release of Debian (and maybe slang?!?!)?
>
> Bidi and RTL support may still need to be implemented but is U
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