Re: Post-woody

2002-05-29 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* "Chris Tillman" | > sure. Note that this is part of the ?consistency and polish? thing, | > it's not needed for d-i to actually be able to do it's work. It's | > needed in order not to confuse the user. | | My .02: By definition the installer is most new users' first contact | with Debian.

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-28 Thread Joey Hess
Denis Barbier wrote: > Consider the cvs/pserver template from cvs.templates: > Template: cvs/pserver > Type: boolean > Default: false > Description: Should the CVS pserver be enabled? > [...] >CVS pserver will be installed in inetd, using tcpd wrappers if you answer >"yes" to thi

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-28 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit: > The units we are working with in debian-installer are udebs (really > policy (why would we want docs and man pages on the installation > media?). Ah good. I forgot about udebs. > The maintainer might have to maintain both utf8 and non-ut

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-28 Thread Chris Tillman
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 01:42:28PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * (Denis Barbier) > > | I do not understand your answer, sorry. > > ok, we'll try again. :) > > | Consider the cvs/pserver template from cvs.templates: > | Template: cvs/pserver > | Type: boolean > | Default: false > |

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Philip Blundell (please respect my mail-followup-to) | On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 12:39, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > * Junichi Uekawa | > | Last time I looked, there is no charset signifier in | > | debconf templates, how does one know if the template is in | > | utf-8 or euc-jp? | > | > You don'

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-28 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 12:39, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Junichi Uekawa > | Last time I looked, there is no charset signifier in > | debconf templates, how does one know if the template is in > | utf-8 or euc-jp? > > You don't need to do that if we decide that everything is utf8. And > since d-i

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Denis Barbier) | I do not understand your answer, sorry. ok, we'll try again. :) | Consider the cvs/pserver template from cvs.templates: | Template: cvs/pserver | Type: boolean | Default: false | Description: Should the CVS pserver be enabled? | [...] |CVS pserver will be inst

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Junichi Uekawa | Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit: | | > | Are you saying that every debconf template file should be in UTF-8? | > | How do you propose to accomplish the transition ? | > | > Every debconf template which is used in d-i, yes. Why not? It | > shouldn't b

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit: > | Are you saying that every debconf template file should be in UTF-8? > | How do you propose to accomplish the transition ? > > Every debconf template which is used in d-i, yes. Why not? It > shouldn't be that many templates. The other

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:14:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:06:26PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > [...] > > In order to avoid this annoyance, I suggested to only accept i18n-ed > > frontends. > > This suggestion does only make sense for interactive frontends, of co

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-27 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:06:26PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: [...] > In order to avoid this annoyance, I suggested to only accept i18n-ed > frontends. This suggestion does only make sense for interactive frontends, of course. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subjec

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-27 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 03:14:26PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * (Denis Barbier) > > | On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:29:35PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | [...] > | > Right now there is a ncurses and a slang frontend, I am not sure of > | > the state of those, but it should be possible to l

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* (Denis Barbier) | On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:29:35PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | [...] | > Right now there is a ncurses and a slang frontend, I am not sure of | > the state of those, but it should be possible to link the better of | > them against something-utf8 or create a newt-utf8 front

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-27 Thread Denis Barbier
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:29:35PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: [...] > Right now there is a ncurses and a slang frontend, I am not sure of > the state of those, but it should be possible to link the better of > them against something-utf8 or create a newt-utf8 frontend. It would also be desirab

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Junichi Uekawa | On 27 May 2002 13:29:35 +0200 | Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > The charset in the templates are undefined, but if we decide that we | > want it to be UTF-8 then that won't be a problem. (Just a small | > policy decision.) The frontend would have to know ho

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
On 27 May 2002 13:29:35 +0200 Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The charset in the templates are undefined, but if we decide that we > want it to be UTF-8 then that won't be a problem. (Just a small > policy decision.) The frontend would have to know how to convert it > into somethin

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Junichi Uekawa | Last time I checked (which is a long long time ago), debconf had a | design problem with utf-8 (the debconf templates are not in utf-8, | and it is not automatically obvious which character code they are in). | Does cdebconf inherit the same problem? Does it convert to utf-8

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Joey Hess | Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > | As you may or may not know, I will no longer have a "position of | > | responsibility" in the installation system after Woody. Joey Hess has | > | volunteer for this position, or at least he did about 18 months ago. | > | I assume he's still for it --

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-25 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> immo vero scripsit: > | I've had zero look at debian-installer. > | I wonder if it would have CJK support. > | Proper CJK support is a very difficult thing to achieve... > > It uses cdebconf as the frontend, and if somebody makes sure the bogl > frontend is ac

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* "Christian T. Steigies" | On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 10:31:32AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > | > I think we should move to debian-installer, even though it will take | > longer time to work out. People want to do some new development, d-i | > is getting closer to working (as in actually be

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-25 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Junichi Uekawa | On 23 May 2002 10:31:32 +0200 | Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > I think we should move to debian-installer, even though it will take | > longer time to work out. People want to do some new development, d-i | > is getting closer to working (as in actually bei

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-24 Thread Junichi Uekawa
On 23 May 2002 10:31:32 +0200 Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we should move to debian-installer, even though it will take > longer time to work out. People want to do some new development, d-i > is getting closer to working (as in actually being able to install > systems in

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-23 Thread Joey Hess
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | As you may or may not know, I will no longer have a "position of > | responsibility" in the installation system after Woody. Joey Hess has > | volunteer for this position, or at least he did about 18 months ago. > | I assume he's still for it -- hopefully the folks on t

Re: Post-woody

2002-05-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Adam Di Carlo | Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > I just wanted to give y'all a heads up that I'd like you all to stick | > around post woody, and keep/start working on CDs and installation stuff | > for the next release. This doesn't change a

Post-woody

2002-04-11 Thread Anthony Towns
Hi guys, I just wanted to give y'all a heads up that I'd like you all to stick around post woody, and keep/start working on CDs and installation stuff for the next release. This doesn't change anything about debian-installer, it'd just be helpful if you don't all w