Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 11 February 2009, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Okay, that's a bit tricky: Under normal circumstances you would reboot > need to check, if your bios allows to boot from CD/DVD/Blu-ray, and > could then boot from your optical drive continuing with the > installation. Aren't most

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
[ readding debian-boot since the discussion is going to "their" topic ] Hi! Justin B Rye schrieb: [ several improvements ] Applied. > If that last sentence is trying to say "without having to boot from > it" (with the assumption that my BIOS wasn't set up to boot from > removable media by def

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 22:45, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Christian Perrier schrieb: > >> Given that it might be hard to explain what *exactly* win32-loader is >> doing, I think it could be safer to drop this new feature from the >> announcement. > > Did so when the discussion started wai

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Christian Perrier schrieb: > Given that it might be hard to explain what *exactly* win32-loader is > doing, I think it could be safer to drop this new feature from the > announcement. Did so when the discussion started waiting for a consensus. Seems we reached it ;) Best regards, Alexa

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jérémy Bobbio (lu...@debian.org): > > That doesnt really have to do anything with Windows. Or if, it should be > > explained how/why. > > I wanted to highlight the inclusion of win32-loader. But maybe this > does not fit the release announcement and should just be dropped > completely.

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Richard Hartmann writes: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:25, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > >> That sounds fishy. As I understand it, win32-loader can start the >> installer from Windows, not needing a reboot (thus not needing BIOS >> boot order reconfiguration either). I doubt Windows stays running >> d

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 13:45, Holger Levsen wrote: > "There is also a new tool for Windows users, win32-loader which can modifiy s/win32-loader/win32-loader,/ > the boot.ini from Windows, so it's possible to install Debian without > touching the BIOS." touching the BIOS to change the boot dev

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, thanks Paul for the explaination! On Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2009, Holger Levsen wrote: > > For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started > > without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. Maybe something like this is better: "There is also a new tool for Windows users, win32

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:18:34PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2009, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > > >> For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started > > >> without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. > > > What does that sentence mean? Why should (only) Wind

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > That sounds fishy. As I understand it, win32-loader can start the > installer from Windows, not needing a reboot (thus not needing BIOS > boot order reconfiguration either). I doubt Windows stays running > during installation, rather it's

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:25, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > That sounds fishy. As I understand it, win32-loader can start the > installer from Windows, not needing a reboot (thus not needing BIOS > boot order reconfiguration either). I doubt Windows stays running > during installation, rather it's re

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:18, Holger Levsen wrote: > That doesnt really have to do anything with Windows. Or if, it should be > explained how/why. Because the installer carries executables for Windows only (well, and Linux). You are right though, it should be explained why. Why the confusion r

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Tanco
As I understand, this may has a whole other meaning, when installing Debian on a HDD that has a Windows installation, I wanted to use grub to load linux, but didn`t like installing it to the MBR, so I installed it on the Debian root partition boot record, after the installation procedure, I ne

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Richard Hartmann writes: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:50, Ferenc Wagner wrote: >> Holger Levsen writes: >> >>> On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: >>> For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. >>> >>>

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2009, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > >> For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started > >> without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. > > What does that sentence mean? Why should (only) Windows users need > > to reconfigure the bios? > To boot from CD inst

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:50, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > Holger Levsen writes: > >> On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: >> >>> For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started >>> without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. >> >> What does that sentence mean? Why sho

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-11 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Holger Levsen writes: > On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: > >> For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started >> without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. > > What does that sentence mean? Why should (only) Windows users need > to reconfigure the bios? To b

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Dienstag, 10. Februar 2009, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: [good paragraph deleted :)] > For Microsoft Windows users, the installer can also be started > without having to reconfigure the system BIOS. What does that sentence mean? Why should (only) Windows users need to reconfigure the bios? rega

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jérémy Bobbio (lu...@debian.org): > How about something like: > > The installation process for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 has been improved in > many ways: support for installation from more than 1 CD or DVD has been > restored, firmware required by some devices can be loaded by using > externa

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Andre Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
Hello, There is a possibility to include my banner [1] ? Perhaps some screenshots... Link: http://www.debianart.org/cchost/?ccm=/media/files/si0ux/486 Thanks! 2009/2/10 Jérémy Bobbio : > On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 06:32:52PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: >> Quoting Alexander Reichle-Schmehl (ale

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-10 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 06:32:52PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Alexander Reichle-Schmehl (alexan...@schmehl.info): > > > Especially the second and third paragraphs need a better replacement; maybe > > the d-i or cd folks have a good idea about that? > > Let's try to get ideas for th

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Alexander Reichle-Schmehl (alexan...@schmehl.info): > Especially the second and third paragraphs need a better replacement; maybe > the d-i or cd folks have a good idea about that? Let's try to get ideas for the D-I paragraph. > > > So, for Etch, we were putting light on encrypted p

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On 2009-02-09, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --040603030801070601030404 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > [ Sorry for the cross post; just trying to make sure everyone is aware of >

Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
[ Sorry for the cross post; just trying to make sure everyone is aware of the current state ] Hi! Attached you'll find the current draft of the announcement for the lenny release. Based upon the announcement for the last release it's far from ready :( Especially the second and third paragraph