Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-08-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Sebastian Ley | The more I think of it, the more I start to dislike it ;-) Imagine how | much work it really is to do such a thing. There must be | #udebs x #frontends of custom widgets. If a change in the module | involves a change in the UI, all frontend widgets must be changed. I | don't kn

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-08-02 Thread Anton Zinoviev
One option is not to use Debconf for asking questions. Unfortunately this means we have to support two installers -- graphical and text oriented. Using something like configlets doesn't solve this problem as the `config' script for Debconf and `main.py' for the configlets solve more or less one t

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-08-01 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Sebastian Ley wrote: >>>I like sebastians proposal of having frontends in librarys for every >>configuration udeb. > > The more I think of it, the more I start to dislike it ;-) Imagine how > much work it really is to do such a thing. There must be > #udebs x #frontends of custom widgets. If a ch

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-08-01 Thread Sebastian Ley
* Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Am Mit, 2003-07-30 um 17.47 schrieb Emile van Bergen: > > > Wouldn't it be better to create a wire (pipe) protocol for slightly > > lower level widgets, such as > > 1. button > > 2. scroll bar > > 3. list > I don't think this is the way it is best done. Basically this

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-08-01 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 23:34, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Am Mit, 2003-07-30 um 17.47 schrieb Emile van Bergen: > > > Wouldn't it be better to create a wire (pipe) protocol for slightly > > lower level widgets, such as > > > > 1. button > > 2. scroll bar > > 3. list > > ... > > > > These are still

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-07-31 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Am Mit, 2003-07-30 um 17.47 schrieb Emile van Bergen: > Wouldn't it be better to create a wire (pipe) protocol for slightly > lower level widgets, such as > > 1. button > 2. scroll bar > 3. list > ... > > These are still sufficiently abstract for use on character terminals as > well as frame buf

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-07-31 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Giuseppe Sacco dijo [Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:47:17PM +0200]: > Il mer, 2003-07-30 alle 13:46, Sebastian Ley ha scritto: > > * Sebastian Ley wrote: > > > > > here we go to add some discussion on the never ending topic of a > > > graphical installer. The current implementation of the gtk-frontend >

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-07-31 Thread Geert Stappers
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:52:55PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:21:37PM +0200, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > > > Il mer, 2003-07-30 alle 17:47, Emile van Bergen ha scritto: > > ... > > > These are still sufficiently abstract for use on character terminals as > > >

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-07-30 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il mer, 2003-07-30 alle 18:52, Emile van Bergen ha scritto: [...] > > if (load(guimodule)) > >guimodule.doall(mycallbacks) > > else > >cdebconf fallback > > > > I like this idea but I am very new to the installer, so take it as a > > hint. > > I really hate this idea, as it creates a prog

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-07-30 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 06:21:37PM +0200, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > Il mer, 2003-07-30 alle 17:47, Emile van Bergen ha scritto: > ... > > These are still sufficiently abstract for use on character terminals as > > well as frame buffers, but allow you to build higher level widgets > > (partition

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-07-30 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il mer, 2003-07-30 alle 17:47, Emile van Bergen ha scritto: ... > These are still sufficiently abstract for use on character terminals as > well as frame buffers, but allow you to build higher level widgets > (partition selectors) independently from the rendering backend. This is the point: I thin

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-07-30 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 04:47:17PM +0200, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > Il mer, 2003-07-30 alle 13:46, Sebastian Ley ha scritto: > > * Sebastian Ley wrote: > > > > > here we go to add some discussion on the never ending topic of a > > > graphical installer. The current implementation of the gtk-fr

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-07-30 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il mer, 2003-07-30 alle 13:46, Sebastian Ley ha scritto: > * Sebastian Ley wrote: > > > here we go to add some discussion on the never ending topic of a > > graphical installer. The current implementation of the gtk-frontend > > for cdebconf is highly unsatisfactory. Because of the limited debconf

Re: Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-07-30 Thread Sebastian Ley
* Sebastian Ley wrote: > here we go to add some discussion on the never ending topic of a > graphical installer. The current implementation of the gtk-frontend > for cdebconf is highly unsatisfactory. Because of the limited debconf > capabilities it is a mere question asker which is not what one w

Debconf vs. graphical installer

2003-07-28 Thread Sebastian Ley
Hi, here we go to add some discussion on the never ending topic of a graphical installer. The current implementation of the gtk-frontend for cdebconf is highly unsatisfactory. Because of the limited debconf capabilities it is a mere question asker which is not what one would expect from a graphica