On Monday 29 June 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 29 June 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> > 2. Can console-setup-udeb expect that /proc/bus/usb is mounted? Is
> > there some dependency about this?
>
> For 2.6.29 and 2.6.30 you can't depend on it being mounted. See
> usb-kbd.c in kbd-chooser; again
On Monday 29 June 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> I have some questions:
> 1. Can console-setup-udeb expect that /proc is mounted? Is there some
> dependency about this?
/proc is guaranteed to be mounted in D-I.
> 2. Can console-setup-udeb expect that /proc/bus/usb is mounted? Is
> there some depen
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 07:32:39PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> >
> > Should I add one additional question or preseeding is enough?
>
> No, you need to implement automatic detection for this case.
>
> Please see kbd-chooser.c. It's not all that hard to find the code, nor
> should it be all that har
On Monday 29 June 2009, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 29 June 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 06:03:21PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > On Monday 29 June 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 04:55:28PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> > > > > But I think i
On Monday 29 June 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 06:03:21PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Monday 29 June 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 04:55:28PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> > > > But I think it is preferable to configure the keyboard of the
>
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 06:03:21PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 29 June 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 04:55:28PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> > > But I think it is preferable to configure the keyboard of the host
> > > even if its keyboard is not used during the i
On Monday 29 June 2009, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 04:55:28PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
> > But I think it is preferable to configure the keyboard of the host
> > even if its keyboard is not used during the installation.
>
> I wrote this about installs on serial console, not
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 04:55:28PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
>
> But I think it is preferable to configure the keyboard of the host even
> if its keyboard is not used during the installation.
I wrote this about installs on serial console, not about UML installs.
Anton Zinoviev
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Console-setup changed a lot since the long mail of Frans Pop. I will
make an upload as soon as the current package migrates to testing. In
the following I am summarizing some of the changes.
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 05:59:02PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
>
> Size impact
> ---
1. T
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
> On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > One of the release goals of Debian Installer for squeeze is dropping
> > the use of console-data keyboard mappings, to replace them by
> > console-setup [1].
>
> Here are (finally) the results of my test
Samuel Thibault, le Tue 27 Jan 2009 00:46:42 +0100, a écrit :
> +# Add some more ambiguity flags
> +# Ideally these ambiguities should be expressed in base.xml instead
> +$KeyboardNames::countries_keyboards{"BG"}->{"ambiguous"} = 1;
> +$KeyboardNames::countries_keyboards{"CZ"}->{"ambiguous"} = 1;
>
Oops, my previous mail was meant to be titled this way of course.
Samuel
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Change in the wiki, by Samuel:
>* Include kbd-udeb to the initrd images
> - * (to be detailed) get rid of console-data (From Anton: "The most
> difficult part inside console-setup is to make the model/layout strings
> translatable. The X upstream provides translations in a xml file but I ha
Quoting Otavio Salvador ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Shouldn't we go the Ubuntu way and prompt users for some keys to
> > decide about the keyboard layout?
>
> For a begginer, it's better but if you know your keyboard layout I
> think is better to be
Il giorno gio, 16/08/2007 alle 22.42 +0200, Christian Perrier ha
scritto:
> I'm slowly having a deeper look at console-setup related issues.
>
> Now I have a kinda-working setup, however I'm really fearing a quite
> big problem: *None* of model/variant/layout/fontsets/etc. names are
> internationa
Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Shouldn't we go the Ubuntu way and prompt users for some keys to
>> decide about the keyboard layout?
>
> For a begginer, it's better but if you know your keyboard layout I
> think is better to be able to choose it direct
Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Shouldn't we go the Ubuntu way and prompt users for some keys to
> decide about the keyboard layout?
For a begginer, it's better but if you know your keyboard layout I
think is better to be able to choose it directly.
That's my personal idea.
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I'm slowly having a deeper look at console-setup related issues.
Now I have a kinda-working setup, however I'm really fearing a quite
big problem: *None* of model/variant/layout/fontsets/etc. names are
internationalized.
The name are *hardcoded* in the .config script and the number of names
is HU
-=| Anton Zinoviev, 15.08.2007 12:01 |=-
> These questions were asked by console-cyrillic.
I tried again with the image Christian prepared.
Same result - console-cyrillic is installed.
Then, grub is installed, and *then* some finish-install thing appeared
on VC4 and console-setup was installed.
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 10:35:12PM +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
>
> The title of the question about the keyboard layout is, quoted "[!]
> Cyrillic on Console". Default is "Bulgarian BDS" (in Bulgarian). I
> select "Bulgarian phonetic".
>
> Next question os about the layout switch. I choose "Alt+Sh
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- -=| Anton Zinoviev, 11.08.2007 11:24 |=-
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 08:56:18AM +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
>> - -=| Anton Zinoviev, 10.08.2007 18:26 |=-
>>> Where did you chose "Bulgarian Phonetic"? In console-setup's debc
On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 08:56:18AM +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
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> - -=| Anton Zinoviev, 10.08.2007 18:26 |=-
> > Where did you chose "Bulgarian Phonetic"? In console-setup's debconf
> > question of in console-cyrillic? (I suppose both should have asked.)
>
> I am not sure which one it was, but
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- -=| Anton Zinoviev, 10.08.2007 18:26 |=-
> Where did you chose "Bulgarian Phonetic"? In console-setup's debconf
> question of in console-cyrillic? (I suppose both should have asked.)
I am not sure whic
> > I think this deserves to be reported against perl-base.
> >
>
> ...or not.
>
> Maybe console-setup should "Depends: perl" and not "Depends: perl-base"
Which means that, once we switch to console-setup, every install will
have perl (aka perl-base+perl-modules) installed. Probably not a good
> The problem arises with a bulgarian or esperanto install because
> perl-modules is not installed (I just checked on an Esperanto
> install).
>
> I think this deserves to be reported against perl-base.
>
...or not.
Maybe console-setup should "Depends: perl" and not "Depends: perl-base"
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Quoting Anton Zinoviev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > > Setting up console font and keymap... can't locate unicore/PVA.pl in
> > > @INC (@INC
> > > contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 ...
> > > /usr/share/perl/5.8/usr/local/lib/site-perl .) at
> > > /usr/share/perl/5.8/utf8_heavy.pl line 80
Quoting Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Notu, dum mia provo mi elektis la 'Dvorak'-klavaranĝon.
> > Notez que, durant mon test j'ai choisi le clavier Dvorak.
>
>
> (Serge mentions that he did choose the Dvorak keyboard layout during
> his tests)
>
> Well, that will make a difference w
(dunno if I need to keep you both CC'ed. Probably useless for
Damyan...unsure for Anton)
> I suppose tasksel installed console-cyrillic together with the other
> Bulgarian-related packages.
Indeed, no. The "culprit" here is the "cyrillic" task. I mentioned
this on the wiki page: tasksel will need
On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 04:52:59PM +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
>
> I tested with Bulgarian. After the reboot I notdt that both
> console-setup and console-cyryllic are installed. My impression was
> that console-cyrillic is no longer needed so I removed it.
I suppose tasksel installed console-cyr
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On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 12:22:42PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
> >
> > Setting up console font and keymap... can't locate unicore/PVA.pl in
> > @INC (@INC
> > contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 ...
> > /usr/share/perl/5.8/usr/local/lib/site-perl .) at
> > /usr/shar
> Notu, dum mia provo mi elektis la 'Dvorak'-klavaranĝon.
> Notez que, durant mon test j'ai choisi le clavier Dvorak.
(Serge mentions that he did choose the Dvorak keyboard layout during
his tests)
Well, that will make a difference with the test I'm running right now
as I did choose the French k
On ven, 2007-08-10 at 16:01 +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > > I'm not sure I'll be able to investigate this deeper (I'll try an
> > > Esperanto install...the language is easy to understand enough for a
> > > speaker of a Latin-based language...). I suggest reporting the issue
> > > against con
> I tested with Bulgarian. After the reboot I notdt that both
> console-setup and console-cyryllic are installed. My impression was that
Ouch. console-cyrillic is not supposed to be there..:-(. I wonde what
dit it drive here.
The place where console-cyrillic is installed is localechooser's
finish
> > I'm not sure I'll be able to investigate this deeper (I'll try an
> > Esperanto install...the language is easy to understand enough for a
> > speaker of a Latin-based language...). I suggest reporting the issue
> > against console-setup with as many details as possible
>
> OK. What details ar
-=| Christian Perrier, 10.08.2007 09:08 |=-
> The most important languages to test are Bulgarian, Russian, French,
> [...]
I tested with Bulgarian. After the reboot I notdt that both
console-setup and console-cyryllic are installed. My impression was that
console-cyrillic is no longer needed so I
Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
> Apparently, the problem arises when /etc/init.d/console-setup is
> launched when the installed system reboots.
>
> Given that my personal tests with French were OK, I suspect something
> weird in the handling of Esperanto default settings by c-s
Quoting MJ Ray ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> I translated the request to debian-esperanto and the heroic Serge
> Leblanc has already tested it! He reports a serious bug, which I've
> tried to translate below. Is this a known bug? If not, do I need
> to report it somewhere else?
Thanks for this, MJ, th
On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 08:08:54AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
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> The most important languages to test are Bulgarian, Russian, French,
> Esperanto, Macedonian, Georgian, Greek, Lithuanian,
> Ukrainian.correct *console* support for Thai, Vietnamese, Arabic,
> Hebrew is not really expected a
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On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 08:08:54AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote:
>
> > +console-setup)
> > + apt-install console-setup || true
> > + db_set debian-installer/keymap '' || true
> > + ;;
> > esac
This is required only if consol
I translated the request to debian-esperanto and the heroic Serge
Leblanc has already tested it! He reports a serious bug, which I've
tried to translate below. Is this a known bug? If not, do I need
to report it somewhere else?
Serge Leblanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in debian-esperanto:
> The
(this mail is of some interest for users of Arabic, Belarusian,
Bulgarian, Esperanto, French, Georgian, Greek, Hebrew, Lithuanian,
Macedonian, Russian, Thai, Ukrainian, Vietnamese)
The first step for the console-setup switch ("db_set
debian-installer/charmap UTF-8" in localechooser) w
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