Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-30 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> > disadvantages: > >ext3 isn't a real journalingfs or better: it hasen't the ful > > power. Forget ext3. > > Do you mean "it doesn't do metadata-only journaling"? Perhaps you > mean "it's not finished". Yes; it was only the current state. > > >xfs is non-free stuff > > Pe

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-30 Thread David Huggins-Daines
Hartmut Koptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > disadvantages: >ext3 isn't a real journalingfs or better: it hasen't the ful > power. Forget ext3. Do you mean "it doesn't do metadata-only journaling"? Perhaps you mean "it's not finished". >xfs is non-free stuff Perhaps you are

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-23 Thread bug1
Joey Hess wrote: > > bug1 wrote: > > > What is the advantage to delaying partitioning, get it out of the way > > > fast and you have the whole harddrive to play with. > > > > > If you get it out the way first, then you limit how powerfull it can be. > > > > If we delay partitioning till after the

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-23 Thread Joey Hess
bug1 wrote: > > What is the advantage to delaying partitioning, get it out of the way > > fast and you have the whole harddrive to play with. > > > If you get it out the way first, then you limit how powerfull it can be. > > If we delay partitioning till after the installer has accessed the > de

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-20 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Erik Andersen wrote: > On Tue Jun 20, 2000 at 03:37:17AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > > I think you are forgetting about something... > > how is partitioning going to be accomplished without user interaction. > > > > I'm not aware of any tools that can take a description of a

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-20 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, bug1 wrote: > Bruce Sass wrote: > > I think you are forgetting about something... > > how is partitioning going to be accomplished without user interaction. > > > > I'm not aware of any tools that can take a description of a filesystem > > then partition and setup a harddrive

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-20 Thread Erik Andersen
On Tue Jun 20, 2000 at 03:37:17AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > No argument here. > > I think you are forgetting about something... > how is partitioning going to be accomplished without user interaction. > > I'm not aware of any tools that can take a description of a filesystem > then partition a

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-20 Thread bug1
Bruce Sass wrote: > I think you are forgetting about something... > how is partitioning going to be accomplished without user interaction. > > I'm not aware of any tools that can take a description of a filesystem > then partition and setup a harddrive(s) accordingly, that seems to be a > task ne

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-20 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, bug1 wrote: > Bruce Sass wrote: > > > Bruce Sass wrote: > > > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, bug1 wrote: > > > > > How and Interim filesystem might work (as i see it) > > > > > > > > Why have an interim fs? > > > > > > 1) To get around any space limitations presented by the boot mediu

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-20 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> > And what about raiserfs or better jfs ? > > > > I havent tried reiserfs yet, from what i know it save us a bit of space > with small files wouldnt it, does it have nay other advantages ? > > Whats jfs? jfs is the journaling-file-system from ibm -- the aix filesystem without the LVM. We h

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-20 Thread bug1
Hartmut Koptein wrote: > > > > > How and Interim filesystem might work (as i see it) > > > > > > Why have an interim fs? > > And what about raiserfs or better jfs ? > I havent tried reiserfs yet, from what i know it save us a bit of space with small files wouldnt it, does it have nay other adv

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-20 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> > > How and Interim filesystem might work (as i see it) > > > > Why have an interim fs? And what about raiserfs or better jfs ? Hartmut -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-19 Thread bug1
Bruce Sass wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, bug1 wrote: > > Bruce Sass wrote: > > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, bug1 wrote: > > > > How and Interim filesystem might work (as i see it) > > > > > > Why have an interim fs? > > > > 1) To get around any space limitations presented by the boot medium, or > > r

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-19 Thread Bruce Sass
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, bug1 wrote: > Bruce Sass wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, bug1 wrote: > > > How and Interim filesystem might work (as i see it) > > > > Why have an interim fs? > > 1) To get around any space limitations presented by the boot medium, or > ramdisk. > It is delaying the pa

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-18 Thread bug1
Bruce Sass wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, bug1 wrote: > > How and Interim filesystem might work (as i see it) > > Why have an interim fs? > > - Bruce 1) To get around any space limitations presented by the boot medium, or ramdisk. It is delaying the partitioning process till later on

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-18 Thread Joey Hess
Some very interesting ideas, the loop mounted raid is a neat trick. bug1 wrote: > Case 2 : TRADITIONAL : This is the traditional method used, it requires > partitioning prior to setting up any nonram filesystems, if this method > is taken there aren't really any advantages to an interim filesyste

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-18 Thread bug1
Joey Hess wrote: > I think this would require a minimum of 16 mb of disk space, and > probably a bit more. Since with ramfs, disk space == memory, this > would limit installations to systems with around 20-32 mb of memory. > I don't think that's very acceptable. > > I don't see how you could use