Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, - "Stephen Powell" wrote: > (blah blah blah blah) Nobody cares if you are opposed to it. Unless you are offering to become lilo upstream, it's going away. William -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-boot-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-22 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, After some discussion about lilo on #debian-devel in IRC, it has pretty much been determined that kernel sizes have crossed the line past where lilo can reliably determine the payload size. This bug *can* be fixed, but not without a significant rewrite of the way that lilo's stage2 loader cod

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-08 Thread William Pitcock
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 16:22 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Nenolod: sorry for the other mail. > > William Pitcock wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 13:06 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM, William Pitcock > >> wrote: > >

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-08 Thread William Pitcock
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 11:05 -0400, Matt Arnold wrote: > As the silent co-maintainer of lilo I believe I should now voice my > thoughts on this > > I too believe that lilo should belive that lilo should be remove *at > some point* but now is not the time. So I restate my willingness to > take over

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-07 Thread William Pitcock
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 13:06 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:21 PM, William Pitcock > wrote: > > Lilo upstream is dead (no release in quite a while), but the lilo > > maintainer has also been seen as saying in various mailing lists etc, > > that s

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-07 Thread William Pitcock
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 10:52 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Stephen Gran wrote: > > This one time, at band camp, William Pitcock said: > >> The only way it is feasible to do so is to drop all of the Debian > >> patches. Without this, upstream is not cooperative wi

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-07 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 18:46 +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl): > > > I'm not sure where the original mail comes from, but IMO this should be > > From lilo package BTS which I was tracking for l10n purposes. So I > just happened to notice William's answer to

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-07 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 22:20 +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, William Pitcock said: > > The only way it is feasible to do so is to drop all of the Debian > > patches. Without this, upstream is not cooperative with us. > > Why is this? See my other

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-06 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 08:53 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:13:32AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > > > And, I think this should be mentioned as a release goal (dropping > > > lilo). Either high priority if we have install paths depending on > >

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-06 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:40 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > William Pitcock wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:26 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > >> Frans Pop wrote: > >>> On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > >>>> Quot

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-06 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:26 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Frans Pop wrote: > > On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > >> Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org): > >>> lilo is due for removal anyway due to being unmaintained ups

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-06 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 10:44 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote: > Frans Pop writes: > > > On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote: > > [...] > > >> > I do not have time to manage the removal at this point, but it will > >> > be gone by June. > > > > Has the package already been offered for a

Re: lilo about to be dropped?

2009-04-06 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 06:42 +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org): > > lilo is due for removal anyway due to being unmaintained upstream and > > the widespread availability of alternatives. > > > > I do not have time to