Package: apt-setup
Severity: wishlist
apt-setup should configure apt so that only translations for the
languages I have configured on the system are downloaded. Currently,
all the various translations are downloaded, slowing down the
installation process.
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he subdirectory that I object to.
Very strongly agreed, if we could outright ban using dot directories in
packages for anything packaged (except dotfiles in people's ~, which
should generally not be something that the packaging cares about), I
think that would be a good idea.
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#x27;m not subscribed.
Regards,
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in sorting on alioth?
I've fixed it now, sorry for the long delay.
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]] Ben Hutchings
| On Thu, 2010-02-11 at 18:03 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > Package: linux-2.6
| > Severity: important
| >
| > Hi,
| >
| > we have a host with an 07:00.0 RAID bus controller: Areca Technology Corp.
Device 1201
| > (aka 07:00.0 0104: 17d3:1201)
| >
cts with a very special place in my heart
and I'm hoping I'll get back to do some hacking on at least some of
the subsystems.
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Ew. So we don't support mirrors which don't provide indices? Why not
just do a HEAD request instead? (Yes, wget doesn't support it yet,
but that would be a much nicer way to do it and should be easy enough
to fix.)
--
; udpkg to busybox at one point
04:53 < Mithrandir> no idea.
04:53 < tausq-h> k
04:54 < tausq-h> hrm, it's gotten quite a bit bigger :)
04:54 < Mithrandir> anyhow.. it's 04:54 here now, and I guess I should catch
* Martin Sjögren
| I cannot reach cvs.alioth, I can't even reach alioth...
It's down due to hardware problems. Was supposed to get up again
yesterday, but it didn't. Hopefully, we'll see it up and running in a
short while.
each boot.
does pap-secrets include hostname?
hosts includes it.
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ould be helpful.
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x27;t know if that is feasable...
Why do you think each and every udeb needs a custom widget? The only
one which really needs it is the partitioner, IMHO. Adding good
support for grouping questions would, for instance, make netcfg-static
not suck the way it does today.
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nd print them out
*/
/* TODO: error checking */
iter = 0;
while ((q = qdb->methods.iterate(qdb, &iter)) != NULL)
{
printf("%s %s %s\n", q->tag, q->template->type, q->value);
question
this is clearly unacceptable when
a full mkfs may take many minutes.
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Thorsten Sauter - Stuttgart, Germany
|
| For this to happen, I need more people interested in going there.
Tollef Fog Heen - Trondheim, Norway
(given that I have some money and it doesn't collide with a customer
project meeting or other silliness.)
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chrp systems have openfirmware which understand file systems, so
they don't need a boot loader at all, they just need a kernel
installed.
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n't know, my iBook2 doesn't have a floppy drive. I don't know
| if you can even boot a Mac from a floppy.
you can, it's the only way to boot oldworlds, iirc, at least.
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* Sebastian Ley
| * Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| > If it's set in d-i, that should be used by base-config, else
| > base-config should ask, imho
|
| The problem is, that it is asked in netcfg which should not be
| mandatory for an installation.
why is that a problem?
| So moving
#x27;s main
| principle is to do only the necessary things. IIRC this has been
| discussed before, perhaps we should come to an agreement here now and
| remove the question from netcfg.
If it's set in d-i, that should be used by base-config, else
base-config should ask, imho
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* (Denis Barbier)
| Martin, please always run debconf-updatepo after modifying templates files.
can't you fix the rules files so that it's done automatically?
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loppy station should
| on the other hand not make the HW detection step fail, so if this is
| the case we can try to solve that first.
I think we should stop autoloading the floppy module.
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* Joey Hess
[...]
| Nearly any whitespace used like that wastes memory. Can anyone think of
| a way to error out at compile time on those?
grep for them?
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s
gotten any extra information, it should be passed on so that both the
rest of d-i and base-config can get at it. dhcp is an incredibly
powerful protocol..
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* Florian Lohoff
| Hi,
| needed - no libdetect for mips(el)
[...]
thanks, applied
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tags 195910 + pending
thanks
* "Cedric Walravens"
| Po-debconf translation for grub-installer.
| Language: dutch (nl)
thanks, applied.
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/po/ directory of this package ?
applied.
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n fixed now; I had a conflict in my Makefile. I might miss
mails to -boot, though it's one of the lists I try to read closely, so
mailing me privately or mentioning it on IRC is a faster and more
reliable way to get my attention on such matters as thi
or i386, which would really suck. I might remember
wrong, though.
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-installer is a normal debian package, which is
built like all normal debian packages.
Please, please read all the stuff doc/*, the various README files
lying around and the Developer's Reference.
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UNIX is
*
| I want to build the version of d-i I just checked out of CVS and test
| it. I don't see that what you suggest advances that.
build libdebian-installer, install libdebian-installer, build the rest
of d-i.
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built full
from the CVS, but rather from the archive. And yes, some parts which
are needed to build a d-i boot floppy in d-i CVS. And they need to be
installed in the host system.
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en packages
Build and install those, or just install those available in Woody.
libd-i is part of d-i cvs.
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*
| Must we be root?
No, but then you need to allow the user to mount a loopback image.
So, it's possible to build as non-root, but it's a bit hackish. :|
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*
| I don't see any build instructions there though.
build/README perhaps?
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* Falk Hueffner
| I'm running kernel 2.5.59. Is that a problem? Or any other ideas?
That's most likely the problem, yes. depmod uses the running kernel
for some stuff, it seems. :/
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hat.
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? If so, I can fix it.
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*
| On 14 Mar 2003, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
[...]
| > You want mine, rather than his. His are ancient.
|
| I know.
|
| Take a look at the README in CVS!!
fixed, thanks.
[...]
| > Some getting started info is available at
| > http://raw.no/d-i/getting_started.html , including
ks to daily
builds (the ones you found were from Nov 8th :).
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thing else", ie languagechooser at
| 10, hence into the reserved space.
Why do they need to be menu items at all, they should rather be run
sometime in rcS.d, shouldn't they?
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es by hand) :
[...]
| Library not found: libbogl.so.0 in path: /lib/ : /usr/lib/ :
| /usr/X11R6/lib/
| make: *** [net-tree-stamp] Error 1
Have you installed libbogl0?
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debian/rules in most udebs.
| - Are the cd-images still created using debian-cd? (Not that I did find any
| evidence why they shoudln't, but I'm just courious.)
afaik, yes.
[snip]
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f/frontend/newt.so: libnewt.so.0.50: cannot open
| shared object file: No such file or directory \033[9;0]
| It kept repeating this message on and on, so I had to reboot...
I'm not sure what the problem here is, perhaps Martin or Petter can
shed some li
ve been for a few
days. mbc, it's good if you report exactly what version you tried
when reporting bugs. :)
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, you are advanced enough to do this in a shell as well.
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* Larry Gilbert
| Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > Also, having somebody with a good touch for English to go
| > through the templates would be nice.
|
| I wouldn't mind helping with this, but I can't seem to figure out how
| to check out debian-installer from the CVS server (us
ays, feedback, flames, comments and ideas are appreciated.
[1] http://people.debian.org/~sjogren/d-i/screenshots/2003-02-16/slang/
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2003/debian-cd-200301/msg00121.html
- --
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U
? I believe I
| want some 'Install-before: autopartkit' in debian/control. Is there
| another way?
Depends on a virtual package?
| Is it OK for me to create /usr/lib/autopartkit.d/ for script fragments
| to run before autopartkit is executed?
sure
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* Petter Reinholdtsen
| [Tollef Fog Heen]
| > I'm not sure using apt is a good thing for this. It would mean that
| > your sources.list would have to be correctly set up and (for
| > cd/floppy/nfs installs) the media should be mounted inside the
| > chroot, in the right p
not in CVS yet) is a better choice,
since it reuses debootstrap functionality and is a lot simpler than
using apt.
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ns of udebs that are
| shown by anna, many are very non-descript and many have tags like "for
| debian-installer" or "udeb" which is totally useless for the people who
| are going to read it! :)
true.
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at a loss about why we needed the ln in the first place.
| any comments?
You probably have an installation on the disk already. P'haps it
should be changed to ln -sf?
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/kernel/image and
| the correct package is installed by kernel-installer. Any objections?
It should be a low-priority question where one can override the
default, but except for that, looks good.
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ver yet and such, though.
| I guess figuring out which retriever to use will be tricky, but we'll
| still have the interactive mode for anna too.
true.
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you please fix this?
thanks, fixed. That's what one gets for reorganizing one's hard
drives. :/
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gh the not-yet-written «we want this package installed in the
base system» module. I'll give it a shot.
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st or on irc is probably the best.
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UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about
in each step, and a full one), but not crucial.
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UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who
anning on stealing a bunch of the wontfix, wishlist bugs from
boot-floppies, since they are really meant to be against the
installation system and not a specific implementation of it.
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tem already? If
| so, I'll find it when I need to, but if there is another package I
| should list the reports under, I'll be happy to add them there.
if the b-f maintainers agree, «install» would be a sensible choice,
since b-fs are not going to be developed a lo
* "Cassandra Lynette Brockett"
| "Tollef Fog Heen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[...]
| > but if you intend to help out with Debian development,
| > debian-devel-announce is one of the more important lists to be
| > subscribed to.
|
| I only have time to read
l and especially the TODO list
: at http://url.raw.no/?101
You can find the full alpha announcement at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/debian-devel-announce-200212/msg2.html
(sorry about the long link), which should get you started.
Ho
staller. debian-installer was recently
released in an alpha version, and until it is more stable, I think it
is reasonable that it's not better documented how to get it
installed.
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* (Denis Barbier)
| On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:49:09PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| [...]
| > Those aren't checked in yet; I'll send patches here for the
| > Choices-Description so people have a chance to complain ;)
|
| I would like to complain, could you please send your
ist.
this list is the right place.
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f there's enough interest to make it work well with old
boot-floppies, but if you want to work on that, please do.
Documentation on how to get it working with b-fs might be good, though
I wouldn't waste too much time trying to get it to work if it isn&#
field if it is available. That means that whatever values main-menu
and friends work with internally does _not_ have to be the same as the
values displayed to the user.
Those aren't checked in yet; I'll send patches here for the
Choices-Description so people have a chance to complai
* jason andrade
| On 20 Dec 2002, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
|
| > Why not both?
|
| frankly i don't see the point in the proliferation of different ISO formats
| from a mirror point of view. i'd prefer to see official debian cd images as:
|
| o a single "lightweight" netin
ackages from sid, but I really
| believe that that is not the way to go. I believe that this should be fixed
| by making udebs of those packages with the right dependencies. As for the
| dependency on libc6, that should also be fixed on d-i packages.
yup, as above, imho.
(Cc-ed to boot, to see their co
* Sytse Wielinga
| Well here it is...
Denis Barbier commited those, thanks for your contribution.
in the future, it'd be great if you put in changelog entries as well,
both so you got the proper credits, and to ensure that the changelogs
are accurate.
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at busybox console width problem last night, it could
have been in cvs, but it's not, yet.
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* (Denis Barbier)
| Or uppercase these macros to prevent name clashes. But IMO they are
| useless and could be removed.
if an application defines macros and functions into another
application's name space, it should not be confused when those are
later used by the application.
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Package: busybox-cvs
Severity: grave
Justification: breaks d-i
At least on a serial console, the TIOCGWINSZ ioctl doesn't work. It
returns insane values such as -1073746144. This works well with
normal non-cvs busybox.
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so I guess he hasn't gotten around to
it yet. At least for general d-i questions, just mail the list, if
there are SPARC-specific issues, either [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] should be a good choice.
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er
Just remove it. It was needed when we have discover's data files in
/usr/share/detect due to a bug. It could just be removed now.
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* Debian Boot CVS Master
| * Set debian/changelog's distribution section to
| - unstable instead of UNRELEASED.
Don't do this until you upload, having the distribution set to
UNRELEASED means you won't get a changelog with UNRELEASED in it, it
will rather be rejected.
lower the priority the error is
printed at.)
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* Geert Stappers
| At which list will the discussion go about the CVS commits?
debian-boot would be a good choice; similar to what the web team does
with -www-cvs and -www.
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Does anyone object to adding a C-g to the boot msg file? And, erm,
| where is that syslinux.cfg? Or am I right in assuming it is not implemented
| yet?
it's in build/ somewhere.
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-q http://archive.progeny.com/debian//pool/main/c/console-data/consob
console-fonts_2002.12.04dbs-1_all.udeb: applet not found
and there it hangs.
Please also stop providing busybox, at least until busybox is a proper
superset of busybox.
waldi, you fix?
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002 (and soon 2003) then
you are on pretty old HW and you most likely know what hardware you
have. Manual setup of ISA is fine, I'd say (unless somebody throws a
lot of weight into fixing it).
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o give
| you clearer results or do some further tests, i can. I have just
| subscribed to this list (i'd like to help). Don't hesitate asking me more
| things if you need.
Thanks for the report! You point out a lot of stuff which we'd not
expected somebody to do, and some st
* Petter Reinholdtsen
| [Tollef Fog Heen]
| > Why?
|
| Why what? Because it is a smart thing to do.
No, it is _not_ smart to not load net-pf-1, aka unix sockets. Some
dhcp clients break. Syslog breaks.
So, please revert this change.
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* Debian Boot CVS Master
| Ignore module load request for net-pf-1, nls_iso8859-1 and
| nls_cp437. The config was moved from cdrom-detect.
Why?
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* Alastair McKinstry
| Any comments?
sounds good to me.
| One question:
|
| Is the installer kernel likely to have USB installed, and discover take
| advantage of it?
That you cannot know. Most likely not, I'd guess. (Unless you are
booting from CD.)
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* Bruce Sass
| i.e., There is only a relatively small amount of code in di which
| uses the reduced libs, so there would be no significant gains.
yes.
| If `yes'... sorry for distracting you from your work.
no problem. :)
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_part2: No such file
| or directory
This should already be fixed.
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* "lars lindgren"
| Is there a kernel that supports that you can se the status of
| loading the kerel by be serialport?
you most likely want something like
console=ttyS0,38400
appended to the boot loader line.
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ib and can run it by
| the rest of the team before they get too far along (but without having
| to wait for a new reduced lib to be built and distributed.
You don't have to distribute the reduced build. It is made as part of
make initrd.
I think you are trying to solve a non-issue here. :)
* Martin Sjögren
| One way would be to skip reducing when building the demo tree, so
| you'd have full libs when doing make demo, but before creating the
| initrd, the libs *must* be reduced!
You don't have those size problems with initrd gotten from, say the
network, AIUI.
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Tolle
override
file once anyhow.
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* Martin Sjögren
| I'm not sure what the best place for doing that is... The
| debian-installer script? main-menu?
/sbin/debian-installer would be best, IMHO. So it will just be run
when debconf is actually running.
You fix?
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* Anthony Towns
| On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 03:22:20AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > The following stuff is still missing:
| > - reporting tool (code to write, non-trivial)
|
| A good aim is probably to make this as trivial as possible. A possibility
| is to store the udebconf datab
heir state? Are you
ready to have an alpha this weekend?
Also, a great, big thanks to all of you: great work so far. It's a
pleasure working with all of you.
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* Bruce Sass
| On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > Most of those are built from -pic libraries, which are reduced
| > versions of the normal libraries. It is impossible to know which
| > functions are needed before the actual build of the boot media.
| >
| > So, y
ore the actual build of the boot media.
So, yes, it is a bit inconsistent, but it's the only way. (AFAIK, at
least)
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days ago.
(I think I got to remap that to something useful.)
Just FYI.
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erdefault
- Execute a shell
does this sound like a reasonable division of the number space?
Martin also suggested that no menu items should have the same number.
If so, we need to allocate numbers and track which have been given
out.
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which is based on detect, which was
developed by Mandrake. Please take a look at the new installer
(debian-installer) if you want to know about the new installer.
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* Florent BERANGER
| I'm new on this ml and I want to test the Debian installer with my laptop.
| Is it possible (are PCMCIA nic cards recognized automaticaly) ?
debian-installer doesn't support PCMCIA yet.
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