Re: Bug#725714: udev firmware loading does not work in the Debian installer

2013-12-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 4:29 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 00:28 +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > [...] >> >> Such an explicit message would probably use printk_emit() and pass >> >> structured data with the filename and the ides from the kernel to &

Re: Processed: Bug#725714: udev firmware loading does not work in the Debian installer

2013-12-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 23:19 +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Michael Biebl >> wrote: >> > This was removed upstream [1] and is highly unlikely to be added back. >> > Especiall

Re: Bug#725714: udev firmware loading does not work in the Debian installer

2013-12-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 13.12.2013 00:34, schrieb Michael Biebl: > See also > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-November/014771.html > > But that thread just echoes what Kay already said, that user-space > firmware loading is deprecated a

Re: Bug#725714: udev firmware loading does not work in the Debian installer

2013-12-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 13.12.2013 00:26, schrieb Michael Biebl: >> Am 13.12.2013 00:12, schrieb Andreas Cadhalpun: >>> The Debian installer needs a way to load the firmware during >>> installation, otherwise the netinst.iso is pretty useless for WLAN >>> device

Re: Bug#725714: udev firmware loading does not work in the Debian installer

2013-12-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 13.12.2013 00:12, schrieb Andreas Cadhalpun: >> The Debian installer needs a way to load the firmware during >> installation, otherwise the netinst.iso is pretty useless for WLAN >> devices with non-free firmware. >> Since a majority of t

Re: Bug#725714: udev firmware loading does not work in the Debian installer

2013-12-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > On 12.12.2013 23:19, Kay Sievers wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Michael Biebl >> wrote: >>> This was removed upstream [1] and is highly unlikely to be added back. >>> Especially conside

Re: Processed: Bug#725714: udev firmware loading does not work in the Debian installer

2013-12-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > This was removed upstream [1] and is highly unlikely to be added back. > Especially considering that the user space firmware loader is scheduled > to be removed sooner rather then later. > > This most likely means d-i needs to be updated to