Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 2022-10-13 at 17:35 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > I'd prefer if we could make things work vs making things fail, > however loudly. There seem to be a few ways to deal with this transition: 1. Document it in the release notes and let users handle it. This means lots of users won't get se

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 04:13:57PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 05:08:57PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > >On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 05:13:22PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: > >> Maybe and idea would to do something like isa-support does for e.g > >> sseX-support > >> on CPUs

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-13 Thread Tobias Frost
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 05:08:57PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 05:13:22PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: > > Maybe and idea would to do something like isa-support does for e.g > > sseX-support > > on CPUs that does not have that feature: It fails on installation with an > >

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-13 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 05:17:59PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 05:08:57PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 05:13:22PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: > > > Maybe and idea would to do something like isa-support does for e.g > > > sseX-support > > > on CPU

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 05:08:57PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: >On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 05:13:22PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: >> Maybe and idea would to do something like isa-support does for e.g >> sseX-support >> on CPUs that does not have that feature: It fails on installation with an >> debc

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-13 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 05:13:22PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote: > Maybe and idea would to do something like isa-support does for e.g > sseX-support > on CPUs that does not have that feature: It fails on installation with an > debconf message, IIRC. > So that would allow something like "new package"

More on nonfree firmware transitional packages (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-13 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 06/10/22 a las 17:13, Tobias Frost escribió: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 05:03:20PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 15:45:25 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 10:11:27PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > >On Sun, Oct 02, 2022 at 08:21:31PM +0

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-13 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Pascal Hambourg (2022-10-13): > What about firmware not available in Debian packages ? For example > Prims54 wireless adapters using p54pci and p54usb drivers included > in nic-wireless-modules-*-di need firmware unavailable in Debian > packages. As far as I understand it, they can be packaged on