Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Josh Triplett (2014-01-21): > In that case, to clarify further: I don't have any objection to > installing plymouth as long as the "splash" option is *not* included by > default. It's a minor waste of disk space if unused, but it might be > worth the convenience of being able to quickly turn on t

Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
On 22.01.2014 03:05, Josh Triplett wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 02:53:51AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: Why do you think it would be bad to enable 'splash' by default? Because then the splash screen would show up. :) See my previous mails in this thread; I would like to avoid having a sp

Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread Josh Triplett
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 02:53:51AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > On 22.01.2014 01:30, j...@joshtriplett.org wrote: > >On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:53:05AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > >>So you agree that it is easy enough to manually remove the 'splash' > >>boot option if you don't like it (

Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread Josh Triplett
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 01:34:18AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > Hi Joey, > > On 20.01.2014 16:28, Joey Hess wrote: > >Josh Triplett wrote: > >>If the goal here is to hide the boot messages by default, note that > >>the default kernel command line includes "quiet", which hides most > >>kernel

Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Josh, On 22.01.2014 01:30, j...@joshtriplett.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:53:05AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: So you agree that it is easy enough to manually remove the 'splash' boot option if you don't like it (assuming it was enabled by default)? I don't see where you got th

Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Joey, On 20.01.2014 16:28, Joey Hess wrote: Josh Triplett wrote: If the goal here is to hide the boot messages by default, note that the default kernel command line includes "quiet", which hides most kernel messages and systemd messages. Note that the hiding of systemd messages is unintent

Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread josh
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:53:05AM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > On 21.01.2014 23:14, Josh Triplett wrote: > >In that case, to clarify further: I don't have any objection to > >installing plymouth as long as the "splash" option is *not* included by > >default. It's a minor waste of disk space

Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Josh, On 21.01.2014 23:14, Josh Triplett wrote: In that case, to clarify further: I don't have any objection to installing plymouth as long as the "splash" option is *not* included by default. It's a minor waste of disk space if unused, but it might be worth the convenience of being able to

Linux kernel ABI bump in experimental: from 3.13-rc6 to 3.13-trunk

2014-01-21 Thread Linux kernel watcher
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Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread Josh Triplett
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 07:43:41PM +0100, Andreas Cadhalpun wrote: > On 21.01.2014 03:35, Josh Triplett wrote: > > If splash were a non-default boot option, and plymouth did nothing > > unless the kernel command line had that option, that seems entirely > > reasonable. Very easily done; just add t

Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread Andreas Cadhalpun
Hi Josh, On 21.01.2014 03:35, Josh Triplett wrote: > If splash were a non-default boot option, and plymouth did nothing > unless the kernel command line had that option, that seems entirely > reasonable. Very easily done; just add this to the plymouth service, > for instance: > ConditionKernelCo

Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread Josh Triplett
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:43:02AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Josh Triplett wrote: > > Quietness on success has some significant advantages to justify not > > disabling it > > Is quietness of success actually intended to be a default property of > systemd? If a lot of distributions default to addin

Re: Bug#734093: debian-installer: install plymouth by default

2014-01-21 Thread Joey Hess
Josh Triplett wrote: > I wasn't suggesting a requirement; I was suggesting that if systemd > becomes the default, there will likely be advantages to switching d-i to > use the same init that installed Debian systems do. It's possible I suppose, but since d-i doesn't currently use Debian's init sys

Bug#736234: installation-reports: Boot loader install did not work

2014-01-21 Thread Harri Kiiskinen
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal -- Package-specific info: Boot method: CD Image version: amd64 wheezy 7.3.0 netinst Date: 20140119 Machine: Fujitsu Lifebook E743 Partitions: Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Wheezy installer on IBM Power LPAR with disk multipathing via dual VIOS

2014-01-21 Thread Frank Fegert
Hello, some time ago i was contacted by Philippe Hermes and Thibaud Besson - both @IBM France - about an installation walkthrough for Debian on IBM Power LPARs which i wrote earlier. They've noticed, that with the Wheezy installer things would go sour, once the installation target disks were backe