bf-utf, gnewt

2000-06-18 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
I started trying to port the patches I found in the bf-utf repository over to the `slang' Newt (snewt) in the `gnewt' module. Are those changes backwards compatible? I know nothing about that. Note that there is a `minislang' in `gnewt' that I think we can use... I did not apply any patche

Re: [dbootstrap] Resume from http-fetch not working right.

2000-06-18 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Randolph" == Randolph Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Randolph> What web server (and version) are you using? Apache 1.3.12-1 Randolph> the range header is a http1.1 extension iirc. the fetch code probably needs Randolph> to do a bit more careful checking of the result cod

Re: test of 'compact' install with 20000614 CVS

2000-06-18 Thread ferret
I was booting 'linux verbose debug' at the syslinux 'boot' prompt. No install.bat here. I just installed another machine with the same images, but using a different installation method, and it did not have any problems. totem: installing kernel and modules from already-mounted fs. As below, I c

Re: [dbootstrap] Resume from http-fetch not working right.

2000-06-18 Thread Randolph Chung
Karl, What web server (and version) are you using? the range header is a http1.1 extension iirc. the fetch code probably needs to do a bit more careful checking of the result code from the server prior to appending results to the file. i'll try to get this fixed later this week unless someone b

Re: woody installation system

2000-06-18 Thread Joey Hess
Herbert Xu wrote: > One of the goals that I wish to see woody's boot-floppies (whatever you > decide to call it) achieve is the support of a fully modularised kernel > through initrd. initrd is not necessary for the boot floppies (or CD's, > etc.) per se since they can load any module they need,

Re: woody installation system

2000-06-18 Thread Herbert Xu
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For woody, I have agreed to serve as the leader of the boot floppies > project. Adam Di Carlo and I talked it over in January when I was in Good luck :) > To that end, I propose that we start a new cvs tree devoted to a new > installation system for Debia

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-18 Thread bug1
Bruce Sass wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, bug1 wrote: > > How and Interim filesystem might work (as i see it) > > Why have an interim fs? > > - Bruce 1) To get around any space limitations presented by the boot medium, or ramdisk. It is delaying the partitioning process till later on

[woody] My plans.

2000-06-18 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Joey sent me a note yesterday with some of his ideas about how the next generation installation system ought to work, and saying that he thinks we need to plan well prior to writing any code. That probably landing in my mailbox during the time I was busy putting together the `gnewt' reposit

Re: [woody,debinst]

2000-06-18 Thread Esben Haabendal Soerensen
Esben Haabendal Soerensen wrote: > Ok, I see I have to look into debconf before arguing much more about > this. Joey Hess wrote: > Let me summarize the features of debconf that seem to apply to > using in in an installer: > * Debconf reduces user interaction to a series of questions and > ans

Re: [woody,debinst]

2000-06-18 Thread Joey Hess
Esben Haabendal Soerensen wrote: > Ok, I see I have to look into debconf before arguing much more about > this. Let me summarize the features of debconf that seem to apply to using in in an installer: * Debconf reduces user interaction to a series of questions and answers. * The questions are

Re: test of 'compact' install with 20000614 CVS

2000-06-18 Thread Petr Cech
On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 02:26:40PM -0400 , Adam Di Carlo wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > I'm booting with the rescue and root 1.44MB diskettes. I have my how? exact command line please. I made some changes to install.bat > > boot-floppies CVS build copied onto an hard drive on the mach

Re: Potato network card modules setup broken?

2000-06-18 Thread Petr Cech
On Sat, Jun 17, 2000 at 02:52:44AM -0700 , Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > Has this been dealt with yet? I thought there was a symlink /bin/sh -> bash on b-f to work-around such bugs. But it's not there. So modutils needs to be fixed. Petr Cech -- Debian GNU/Linux mai

Re: [woody,debinst]

2000-06-18 Thread Esben Haabendal Soerensen
> "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> Esben Haabendal Soerensen wrote: >> I think it is a good idea to turn this design up-side down. >> >> The basic design component should not be the UI. I suggest that >> the basic design for the woody installer is based in the actual >>

Re: [woody,debinst] (Was: Re: [dbootstrap] `newt' and `boxes.c', `bogl' and `bowl'[, `???' and `boxeX.c'?])

2000-06-18 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sun, 18 Jun 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > Bruce Sass wrote: <...> > > <...description of a dpkg based installation system...> > > > I think this would require a minimum of 16 mb of disk space, and > > > probably a bit more. Since with ramfs, disk space == memory, this > > > would limit installations

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-18 Thread Joey Hess
Some very interesting ideas, the loop mounted raid is a neat trick. bug1 wrote: > Case 2 : TRADITIONAL : This is the traditional method used, it requires > partitioning prior to setting up any nonram filesystems, if this method > is taken there aren't really any advantages to an interim filesyste

Re: [woody,debinst]

2000-06-18 Thread Joey Hess
Esben Haabendal Soerensen wrote: > I think it is a good idea to turn this design up-side down. > > The basic design component should not be the UI. I suggest that the > basic design for the woody installer is based in the actual > installation proces, making the modularity concept even more > po

Re: packages (was Re: [woody,debinst] `parted' and non-DOS compatible partitioning schemes)

2000-06-18 Thread Joey Hess
Bruce Sass wrote: > It would be very confusing to have .debs that could not be installed > onto an existing Debian system. The boot-floppies .deb is not useful to > the average user, but it can still be installed; debinst .debs would be > installed for the same reasons that someone would want to

Re: [Rainer Dorsch ] Re: New install / loopback device

2000-06-18 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 02:14:24PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: > > > > but the new system has no network file. Interestingly the network file > > > > is not known on the upgraded system: > > > > rainer@rakete:~$ dpkg -S /etc/init.d/network > > > > dpkg: /etc/init.d/network not found. > > > > > >

Re: [woody,debinst] (Was: Re: [dbootstrap] `newt' and `boxes.c', `bogl' and `bowl'[, `???' and `boxeX.c'?])

2000-06-18 Thread Joey Hess
Bruce Sass wrote: > > 1. Modularity. > > 2. Do the absolute minimum in the installer, do as much as is possible > >in the full debian install. > > A side effect of both these points is that the installation system > should become scalable and get smaller... You becha. It should also be poss

Re: woody installation system

2000-06-18 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > Erik Andersen wrote: > > > increasingly innacurate. Some ideas inclde "debinst", > > > "debian-installer", or some actual cool name someone comes up with. I > > > hate naming projects. :-) > > > > Urgh. Gurgle, gurgle. Lets not let this one get out of hand

Processed: Re: Bug#65693: Select of MD5 and shadow passwords during install

2000-06-18 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 65693 base-config Bug#65693: Select of MD5 and shadow passwords during install Bug reassigned from package `boot-floppies' to `base-config'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Darren Benham (adminis

Bug#65694: problem with dselect post-install

2000-06-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > After base has been installed and using the "simple" package > selection mode, the install of selected packages fails with > a segfault. dselect also segfaults when reading the c-tex > package. Is it possible to give us dpkg install output? Then we can refile this

Re: packages (was Re: [woody,debinst] `parted' and non-DOS compatible partitioning schemes)

2000-06-18 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Joey Hess wrote: <...> > These wouldn't be .deb's that are policy complient, or that you'd want > to install onto a real debian system. (They would in fact, probably have > dependancies to prevent that.) Policy is what you people make it, since .debs have never been used in t

Re: [m68k] boot-floppies for test cycle

2000-06-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
"Christian T. Steigies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > sorry to interrupt with a simple thing and not adding to the flamewars. > I want to build another set of boot-floppies for m68k, which fix some > problems I introduced (wrong amiga kernel), improves the quickinstall for > mac, changes the dir

Re: test of 'compact' install with 20000614 CVS

2000-06-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm booting with the rescue and root 1.44MB diskettes. I have my > boot-floppies CVS build copied onto an hard drive on the machine I'm > installing on. I mounted the partition, switched over to vt2, and copied > resc1440compact.bin into images-1.44/compact/rescue.bin

Re: [snewt,gnewt] New CVS modules created. (Was: Re: [gnewt] Are you using a version control system?)

2000-06-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes: > New Modules: > > I've created two new modules in the "debian-boot" CVS repository on > "cvs.debian.org". One is `gnewt', with `newt' grafted into it, along > with `minislang' from Red Hat's `anaconda-7.0'[1]. The other is > `lrmi',

Re: [Rainer Dorsch ] Re: New install / loopback device

2000-06-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes: > From: Rainer Dorsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: New install / loopback device > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:55:45 +0200 > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > but the new system has no network file. Interestingly t

Re: woody installation system

2000-06-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Erik Andersen wrote: > > Urgh. Gurgle, gurgle. Lets not let this one get out of hand. > > Lacking a marketing department, I suggest we keep it simple. > > "debian-installer" works for me. > > I think I prefer it too. But I don't care if it gets out of han

Re: dselect: 2nd plea for help

2000-06-18 Thread Adam Di Carlo
rslittle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, once again folks. I havent heard from anyone yet about this > problem so am resending. > > I'm using the Summer 1999 Infomagic distribution cd's and chose multicd > access method. > > After going through the initial setup and logging in as root I

dselect: 2nd plea for help

2000-06-18 Thread rslittle
Hello, once again folks. I havent heard from anyone yet about this problem so am resending. I'm using the Summer 1999 Infomagic distribution cd's and chose multicd access method. After going through the initial setup and logging in as root I couldn't find any X11R6 related files anywhere, jus

Re: [woody,debinst] keeping track of plans

2000-06-18 Thread bug1
Steve Przepiora wrote: > As long as your thinking of re-doing boot-floppies, why not take suggestions > from users about what's important for them? Maybe set up some kind voting > page or something. > Its a good idea to keep in touch with regular users, but i think timing is important. I think it

Re: [woody,debinst]

2000-06-18 Thread Esben Haabendal Soerensen
> "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> The question of how the UI should work is the weak point of my Joey> current proposal. I've been wrestling with really two orthagonal Joey> issues: Joey> 1. How should the UI work? I rather like most of our current UI, Joey> but is it r

Re: [woody,debinst] (Was: Re: [dbootstrap] `newt' and `boxes.c', `bogl' and `bowl'[, `???' and `boxeX.c'?])

2000-06-18 Thread Bruce Sass
On Sat, 17 Jun 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > The ideas I stress are important are: > > 1. Modularity. > 2. Do the absolute minimum in the installer, do as much as is possible >in the full debian install. A side effect of both these points is that the installation system should become scalable and

Re: [woody,debinst] Interim filesystem

2000-06-18 Thread bug1
Joey Hess wrote: > I think this would require a minimum of 16 mb of disk space, and > probably a bit more. Since with ramfs, disk space == memory, this > would limit installations to systems with around 20-32 mb of memory. > I don't think that's very acceptable. > > I don't see how you could use

Re: [snewt,gnewt] New CVS modules created.

2000-06-18 Thread Jean-Marc Lienher
> > I noticed that there is a slot open in the "gnewt/src/" directory for > a framebuffer front end. That one would be a cool little project for > someone... perhaps O'ksi'D already has plans for that, and perhaps > some codes written down? I'm still in the "thinking about it" stage. I was