Re: Is blendsel part of D-I RC1? (Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer)

On 5/17/25 3:31 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: AFAICS the logic for running blendsel was added to pkgsel 0.83 [1] which was included in D-I Alpha 1 already [2]. However the D-I Alpha 1 announcement purposely did not detail all the many changes since bookworm, so blendsel was not explicitly mentioned

Re: Is blendsel part of D-I RC1? (Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer)

On Sa, 2025-05-17 09:57:26, Holger Wansing wrote: > Hi, > > Am 17. Mai 2025 09:31:35 MESZ schrieb Pascal Hambourg > : > >AFAICS the logic for running blendsel was added to pkgsel 0.83 [1] which was > >included in D-I Alpha 1 already [2]. However the D-I Alpha 1 announcement > >purposely did not

Re: Is blendsel part of D-I RC1? (Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer)

I had a play with RC1 today, blendsel is definitely there and debian med installed packages. My hamradio packages did not install, so now I need to file a bug and work out why! -- Hibby Debian Developer Packet Radioist MM0RFN signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed me

Re: Is blendsel part of D-I RC1? (Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer)

Hi, Am 17. Mai 2025 09:31:35 MESZ schrieb Pascal Hambourg : >AFAICS the logic for running blendsel was added to pkgsel 0.83 [1] which was >included in D-I Alpha 1 already [2]. However the D-I Alpha 1 announcement >purposely did not detail all the many changes since bookworm, so blendsel was >no

Re: Is blendsel part of D-I RC1? (Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer)

On 17/05/2025 à 08:15, Holger Wansing wrote: Am 17. Mai 2025 07:21:40 MESZ schrieb Andreas Tille : I was particularly interested in the planned integration of blendsel. I understand that it might already be included in this release, but I didn’t find it mentioned in the changelog. Since this fe

Re: Is blendsel part of D-I RC1? (Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer)

Hi, Am 17. Mai 2025 07:21:40 MESZ schrieb Andreas Tille : >I was particularly interested in the planned integration of blendsel. I >understand that it might already be included in this release, but I >didn’t find it mentioned in the changelog. Since this feature is quite >important to me, I just w

Is blendsel part of D-I RC1? (Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer)

Hi Holger, Am Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 10:20:19PM +0100 schrieb Andreas Tille: > > Since not everybody is reading the Blends list I've added the relevant > mailing lists in CC. I personally confirm for Dropped other lists in CC except debian-boot which is relevant for my question. I was very happ

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

(Re-sending, as it seems that the original didn't go through. Sorry if you get a duplicate) Hi Holger, Andreas, al,. Am 05.01.25 um 22:20 schrieb Andreas Tille: Am Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 07:45:45PM +0100 schrieb Holger Wansing: We now reached the point, where all this can be seen/tested in the

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

On Sun, 01/05/2025 10:20:19 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Holger, > > Am Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 07:45:45PM +0100 schrieb Holger Wansing: > > We now reached the point, where all this can be seen/tested in the wild aka > > via daily built images. > > Please note, that the last relevant change did not

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

We should add also the Debian-pan blends. It is activelay maintain by myself and the french synchrotron SOLEIL. cheers - Le 6 Jan 25, à 2:02, Dave Hibberd hi...@debian.org a écrit : > On Sunday, 5 January 2025 21:20:19 GMT Andreas Tille wrote: >> > So, the infrastructure is ready now, and

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

On Sunday, 5 January 2025 21:20:19 GMT Andreas Tille wrote: > > So, the infrastructure is ready now, and I want to ask blend people for a > > list of blends, that you want to be included in this mechanism. > > I already came across the list in > >

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Holger, Am Sun, Jan 05, 2025 at 07:45:45PM +0100 schrieb Holger Wansing: > We now reached the point, where all this can be seen/tested in the wild aka > via daily built images. > Please note, that the last relevant change did not reach testing yet, so you > will have to install sid from a trix

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Holger, On Fr 13 Dez 2024 15:21:58 CET, Holger Wansing wrote: Hi all, Am 13. Dezember 2024 08:29:21 MEZ schrieb Andreas Tille : I confirm I was very happy about Holger's proposal and it might make sense to keep things as simple as possible for the moment. My gut feeling is that Debian Ed

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Andreas Tille writes: > Hi, > > I know Debian Edu members are reading the debian-blends list but to > be very sure I put their list in CC. > > Am Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 02:11:00AM +0100 schrieb Cyril Brulebois: >> Philip Hands (2024-12-12): >> > I think I was perhaps forgetting that tasksel (and s

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi all, Am 13. Dezember 2024 08:29:21 MEZ schrieb Andreas Tille : >I confirm I was very happy about Holger's proposal and it might make >sense to keep things as simple as possible for the moment. My gut >feeling is that Debian Edu people consider their pre-seeding as a solved >problem. Since the

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi, I know Debian Edu members are reading the debian-blends list but to be very sure I put their list in CC. Am Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 02:11:00AM +0100 schrieb Cyril Brulebois: > Philip Hands (2024-12-12): > > I think I was perhaps forgetting that tasksel (and so blendsel) rely on > > the installe

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Philip Hands (2024-12-12): > I think I was perhaps forgetting that tasksel (and so blendsel) rely on > the installed system to do what they do, so one cannot push them earlier > in the order without more effort than I had in mind. > > I still think it might be worth having an early question where

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Holger Wansing writes: > Hi Phil, > > Am 12. Dezember 2024 09:32:58 MEZ schrieb Philip Hands : >>I can see why you opted to put blendsel there from the point of view of >>it being minimally invasive, but I think that after tasksel is too late >>for blend selection. >> >>Some blends may want to do

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Phil, Am 12. Dezember 2024 09:32:58 MEZ schrieb Philip Hands : >I can see why you opted to put blendsel there from the point of view of >it being minimally invasive, but I think that after tasksel is too late >for blend selection. > >Some blends may want to do things like preseed the desktop, o

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Phil, Am Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 09:32:58AM +0100 schrieb Philip Hands: > I would hope to have time to contribute some effort to helping make this > happen in the near future, and am much more likely to get round to it if > prodded, so please ask if there's anything I can help with. Prodding! ;-P

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Holger, Thanks for working on this, it's been left undone for way too long (which makes me feel guilty, as I really ought to have managed to do more to make it happen, so I really appreciate that you're working on it). Holger Wansing writes: > If someone wants to give it a try, to see how it

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi, Holger Wansing (2024-12-11): > blendsel is now ready to be integrated into d-i, pkgsel and tasksel need an > upload to make this happen. > > What are your thoughts for this? > Do you want to make a first alpha/beta d-i release, as a "clean basis" without > this Blend integration approach? >

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi kibi, blendsel is now ready to be integrated into d-i, pkgsel and tasksel need an upload to make this happen. What are your thoughts for this? Do you want to make a first alpha/beta d-i release, as a "clean basis" without this Blend integration approach? Or am I allowed to upload now and we g

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi, Cyril Brulebois wrote (Sun, 12 May 2024 08:54:11 +0200): > Keeping the whole git history of tasksel without its tag is probably > fine, in case anyone needs to dig up why this thing is done that way, > but I'm not sure we should keep tasksel entries in debian/changelog; I > would probably onl

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hallo wieder, TL;DR = blendsel looks uploadable, even if that mail looks long and full of nitpicks, that's all they are: minor things. A bunch of them being in passing comments about tasksel itself. ;) Holger Wansing (2024-05-09): > - I adapted tasksel, to become an installer for Debian pure ble

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Philip Hands writes: > which when tested on openQA looks like this: > > https://openqa.debian.net/tests/260723 I got bored waiting for the timeout, so sent that mail before the job had ended. The bit you want to see is: https://openqa.debian.net/tests/260723#step/grub/3 Cheers, Phil. --

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Holger, Well done for deciding to put your shoulder to this old rock, I think we've got a pretty good chance of getting to the top of the mountain this time :-) Holger Wansing writes: > I did some testing in d-i, however that's tricky: > testing is problematic as long as the new blendsel pac

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Holger, thanks a lot for your effort. Its really appreciated and very valuable for the Blends effort. Am Thu, May 09, 2024 at 11:05:28PM +0200 schrieb Holger Wansing: > Holger Wansing wrote (Tue, 13 Feb 2024 23:43:35 +0100): > > could we just "copy tasksel with its UI and infrastructure" int

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi, Holger Wansing wrote (Tue, 13 Feb 2024 23:43:35 +0100): > could we just "copy tasksel with its UI and infrastructure" into a new > package > (I name it 'blends-di-tasks' here), which has all the blends listed, and add > one entry to tasksel with a name like "Debian Pure Blends" or similar?

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hallo Holger, Holger Wansing (2024-05-09): > Holger Wansing wrote (Tue, 13 Feb 2024 23:43:35 +0100): > > could we just "copy tasksel with its UI and infrastructure" into a > > new package (I name it 'blends-di-tasks' here), which has all the > > blends listed, and add one entry to tasksel with a

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Holger, Am Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 11:43:35PM +0100 schrieb Holger Wansing: > I would like to push a proposal here on this longstanding topic: Thanks a lot for supporting this long standing topic which actually bothers me than 20 years. But Debian is not only about technique it is also about pat

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi, I would like to push a proposal here on this longstanding topic: By other means, my attention was drawn to the blends-tasks package. While this package is not new, an idea came to my mind when reading the package description: As a possible way to solve (or work-around ?) this issue: could w

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 09:52:42AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > I don't have anything like a design for how that should look in my head > though -- I guess interested parties should get together and come up > with a design _before_ we start trying to implement it :-) This sounds like you need some

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Steve, Am Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 11:33:38PM + schrieb Steve McIntyre: > Much as I hate to let you down, I think the best policy now is to be > honest (with myself and you!) and say that I'm not going to find time > to do this any time soon. Sorry. :-( No need to be sorry about this. I highl

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Andreas! Apologies for keeping you waiting here. For a range of reasons, I've been struggling to find *any* time to look at this. Much as I hate to let you down, I think the best policy now is to be honest (with myself and you!) and say that I'm not going to find time to do this any time soon.

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:51:45AM +, Seth Arnold wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:02:50PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > > The only missing bit AFAIK is getting the step where tasksel gets > > installed into the target system, and then run, to be able to grab the > > version of tasksel to use

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:02:50PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > The only missing bit AFAIK is getting the step where tasksel gets > installed into the target system, and then run, to be able to grab the > version of tasksel to use from an alternative apt repository (which is > already being created

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

On 1/10/22 11:24, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi Phil, Am Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:02:50PM +0100 schrieb Philip Hands: Fixing that last bit is next on my TODO list. Once done, that should allow us to try things out rather more easily, and thus have a chance to demonstrate that they are ready for a wide

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Phil, Am Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:02:50PM +0100 schrieb Philip Hands: > Fixing that last bit is next on my TODO list. Once done, that should > allow us to try things out rather more easily, and thus have a chance to > demonstrate that they are ready for a wider audience. > > I'll follow up here

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Steve, a new release cycle has started. Do you think it is possible to implement this long wanted feature for the next release? Kind regards and happy new year Andreas. Am Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 04:53:48PM + schrieb Steve McIntyre: > Hey Andreas! > > On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 02:46:52

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Steve, Am Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 04:53:48PM + schrieb Steve McIntyre: > > I've made a *small* amount of progress at hacking on debconf (route > #2). But again I've had other things come up, not least another round > of Secure Boot fixes. We're not going to have changes in for > Bullseye. Sor

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hey Andreas! On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 02:46:52PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: >On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 10:23:19AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> Hey Andreas! I hope you're keeping well! >> >> On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 06:08:02PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: >> >> (Overdue!) update: I've been hacking

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Steve, On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 10:23:19AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hey Andreas! I hope you're keeping well! > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 06:08:02PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > >> (Overdue!) update: I've been hacking on this for a while, and I hope > >> to have a prototype for testing up

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Steve, On Thu, Oct 08, 2020 at 10:23:19AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hey Andreas! I hope you're keeping well! Thanks, I'm perfectly fine. I hope you as well. > You must be > psychic - I just started picking things up again last weekend. Argh, now you have made my deepest secret public!

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hey Andreas! I hope you're keeping well! On Tue, Oct 06, 2020 at 06:08:02PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: >On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 07:16:11PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >Not yet, I'm afraid. A little too swamped so far, but you're near the >> >top of my TODO list. I'm hoping to get some time fo

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

On 06/10/20 9:08 am, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Steve, > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 07:16:11PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>> Not yet, I'm afraid. A little too swamped so far, but you're near the >>> top of my TODO list. I'm hoping to get some time for development on >>> this in the next couple of

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Steve, On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 07:16:11PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >Not yet, I'm afraid. A little too swamped so far, but you're near the > >top of my TODO list. I'm hoping to get some time for development on > >this in the next couple of months. > > (Overdue!) update: I've been hacking

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Steve, On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 07:16:11PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >Not yet, I'm afraid. A little too swamped so far, but you're near the > >top of my TODO list. I'm hoping to get some time for development on > >this in the next couple of months. > > (Overdue!) update: I've been hacking

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:23:08PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >Hey Andreas! > >On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 08:23:39AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: >> >>the first alpha of the installer of Debian 11 is out. As we talked at >>DebConf about better Blends support: Is there anything we can test >>regardi

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hey Andreas! On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 08:23:39AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > >the first alpha of the installer of Debian 11 is out. As we talked at >DebConf about better Blends support: Is there anything we can test >regarding tasksel? Not yet, I'm afraid. A little too swamped so far, but you'

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Steve, the first alpha of the installer of Debian 11 is out. As we talked at DebConf about better Blends support: Is there anything we can test regarding tasksel? Kind regards Andreas. On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 10:32:28PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi, > > somehow I've thought I w

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi, somehow I've thought I would have pinged about this one and I even somehow remember that Holger liked that I did so but I do not find and trace of this in my outbox nor the mailing list archive. So may be I have dreamed this. It would be a real dream if we could finally realise this 15 year

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi Ole, On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 12:23:58PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > Filippo Rusconi writes: > > Also, when I installed debian-science and debichem last time, the process > > downloaded such an amount of software that it almost filled my disk (which > > I was > > not suspecting). Maybe, a ro

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

On 08/16/2018 03:46 AM, Filippo Rusconi wrote: [snip] Please, add some small strophe to explain what a blend is, as I can tell that this is not something widely known even to seasoned Debian users/admins (have examples from research labs). I assume you are aware of https://www.debian.org/bl

Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Filippo Rusconi writes: > Also, when I installed debian-science and debichem last time, the process > downloaded such an amount of software that it almost filled my disk (which I > was > not suspecting). Maybe, a rough indication of the used disk space in front of > each blend might be useful, in

Re: Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Greetings, Andreas, and everybody, On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:34:36AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi, to give some status information about how we can make Blends more visible at installer stage: Holger Levsen, Phil Hands, Steve McIntyre and I had some discussion in DebCamp. The conclusion w

Next attempt to add Blends to Debian installer

Hi, to give some status information about how we can make Blends more visible at installer stage: Holger Levsen, Phil Hands, Steve McIntyre and I had some discussion in DebCamp. The conclusion was that adding Blends to the installer tasksel menu would be perfectly possible if tasksel itself woul