> APL does have a certain geek appeal, but the weirdness of its
> right-to-left evaluation order makes the character set issues look trivial.
Oh, I forgot about that, I was never totally comfortable with RPN even.
At one point Borland was selling a a "Professional" (read limited)
version of Delph
On 10/01/17 19:30, Alan Corey wrote:
In Wirth's history it was Pascal, Modula, Oberon I think. I learned
Pascal on a VAX and an Apple 2 at the same time for an Apple 2
project, skipped Modula (and Ada), played with Oberon some. Borland's
Turbo Pascal screamed, I wrote a lot of Delphi too. Laza
On 10/01/17 19:30, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 06:43:57PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
I've just managed to rescue a bunch of Logitech compiler manuals (I've
recently had to sacrifice a lot of old stuff) with the hope of at least
getting a photo of their early products int
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 06:43:57PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> I've just managed to rescue a bunch of Logitech compiler manuals (I've
> recently had to sacrifice a lot of old stuff) with the hope of at least
> getting a photo of their early products into Wp to keep the knowledge alive.
> The
In Wirth's history it was Pascal, Modula, Oberon I think. I learned
Pascal on a VAX and an Apple 2 at the same time for an Apple 2
project, skipped Modula (and Ada), played with Oberon some. Borland's
Turbo Pascal screamed, I wrote a lot of Delphi too. Lazarus suffers
from having too many author
On 10/01/17 17:30, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 08:17:59AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
On 09/01/17 22:00, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 09 January 2017 10:52:46 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Logitech should have stuck to selling compilers.
Thats a different company I bel
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 08:17:59AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> On 09/01/17 22:00, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >On Monday 09 January 2017 10:52:46 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
>
> >>
> >>Logitech should have stuck to selling compilers.
> >>
> >Thats a different company I believe.
>
> Same company, I w
On Tuesday 10 January 2017 08:10:29 Alan Corey wrote:
> On 1/10/17, Mark Morgan Lloyd
wrote:
> > On 09/01/17 22:00, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> On Monday 09 January 2017 10:52:46 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> >>> Logitech should have stuck to selling compilers.
>
> And Microsoft should have stuck to s
On 1/10/17, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> On 09/01/17 22:00, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Monday 09 January 2017 10:52:46 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Logitech should have stuck to selling compilers.
And Microsoft should have stuck to selling GWBASIC
Actually I never had a lot of trouble with Lo
On 09/01/17 22:00, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 09 January 2017 10:52:46 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
Logitech should have stuck to selling compilers.
Thats a different company I believe.
Same company, I was their de-facto UK tech support for a while. Long
predated Linux of course (in a nod
On Monday 09 January 2017 10:52:46 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> On 09/01/17 15:00, Alan Corey wrote:
> >>> 1860NX). So even if ones budget doesn't run to an HDMI monitor or
> >>> TV, there's a fair number of these on eBay.
> >
> > The best deal on a cheap HDMI monitor I've been able to find is
> > a
On Monday 09 January 2017 09:47:33 Alan Corey wrote:
> >> 1860NX). So even if ones budget doesn't run to an HDMI monitor or
> >> TV, there's a fair number of these on eBay.
>
> The best deal on a cheap HDMI monitor I've been able to find is
> actually a TV. It has HDMI, VGA, RCA type analog video
This is getting a tad off-topic, not that I care particularly. I was
doing some Googling and ran across https://forum.linuxcnc.org/ which
might have something appropriate. I'd never heard of it.
http://www.surpluscenter.com/ was what I was Googling for, also
Herbach and Rademan, https://www.scip
On 09/01/17 15:00, Alan Corey wrote:
1860NX). So even if ones budget doesn't run to an HDMI monitor or TV,
there's a fair number of these on eBay.
The best deal on a cheap HDMI monitor I've been able to find is
actually a TV. It has HDMI, VGA, RCA type analog video inputs. It
has a DVD drive
>> 1860NX). So even if ones budget doesn't run to an HDMI monitor or TV,
>> there's a fair number of these on eBay.
The best deal on a cheap HDMI monitor I've been able to find is
actually a TV. It has HDMI, VGA, RCA type analog video inputs. It
has a DVD drive tucked in behind the screen, you c
On Monday 09 January 2017 06:11:46 Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> On 08/01/17 18:00, Alan Corey wrote:
> > No luck with that here either, it would be very handy to have. But
> > then I'm using an HDMI->VGA adapter and my monitor is ancient. I
> > think the standard was that when horizontal and verti
On 08/01/17 18:00, Alan Corey wrote:
No luck with that here either, it would be very handy to have. But
then I'm using an HDMI->VGA adapter and my monitor is ancient. I
think the standard was that when horizontal and vertical sync pulses
both go away the monitor's supposed to immediately switch
On Sunday 08 January 2017 18:21:25 Alan Corey wrote:
> I doubt xscreensaver is any default, KDE and probably Gnome have their
> own forks of it because it doesn't get along with their stuff. Some
> of the neatest screensavers need OpenGL, there are about 200 different
> ones, it's been around at
On 1/8/17, François Leblanc wrote:
> For my raspberry pi I need to have a pause between server start and xset
> command:
>
> My start script include commands:
>
>
> sleep 20
>
> $DISPLAY xset s noblank s off -dpms
This seems effective at keeping the monitor on, I just tested it for
15 minutes. Y
I doubt xscreensaver is any default, KDE and probably Gnome have their
own forks of it because it doesn't get along with their stuff. Some
of the neatest screensavers need OpenGL, there are about 200 different
ones, it's been around at least 20 years. It's a framework that brings
up contributed pr
On Sunday 08 January 2017 13:19:42 Alan Corey wrote:
> My workaround is to leave the Pi on and only turn on the monitor when
> I sit down at it. I used to love xscreensaver but it was impractical.
> Some of those "hacks" didn't exit cleanly.
tvervice doesn't sound all that usefull from here.
An
For my raspberry pi I need to have a pause between server start and xset
command:
My start script include commands:
sleep 20
$DISPLAY xset s noblank s off -dpms
2017-01-08 19:19 GMT+01:00 Alan Corey :
> My workaround is to leave the Pi on and only turn on the monitor when
> I sit down at it.
My workaround is to leave the Pi on and only turn on the monitor when
I sit down at it. I used to love xscreensaver but it was impractical.
Some of those "hacks" didn't exit cleanly.
pi2# tvservice
Usage: tvservice [OPTION]...
-p, --preferred Power on HDMI with preferred setti
On Sunday 08 January 2017 12:52:01 Alan Corey wrote:
> No luck with that here either, it would be very handy to have. But
> then I'm using an HDMI->VGA adapter and my monitor is ancient. I
> think the standard was that when horizontal and vertical sync pulses
> both go away the monitor's suppose
No luck with that here either, it would be very handy to have. But
then I'm using an HDMI->VGA adapter and my monitor is ancient. I
think the standard was that when horizontal and vertical sync pulses
both go away the monitor's supposed to immediately switch off or after
a delay period. An adapt
Greetings folks;
Running LXDE.
And xset dpms q returns:
DPMS (Energy Star):
Standby: 450Suspend: 600Off: 900
DPMS is Enabled
Monitor is On
At the end of its report, and the monitor was manually powered down when
I left the area around 6 pm last night, so it obviously has no knowle
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