Re: debian on acer tablets

2014-11-30 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Paul Wise wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: For the record, what's the cutoff point? According to systemd git, it appears to be 3.7, 3.8 for smack, 3.14 for systems with audit and containers. There are also a number of CONFIG_* options that are required to be en

Re: debian on acer tablets

2014-11-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 09:46:17AM +, Ian Campbell wrote: > Debian's userspace should work on essentially any ARM platform which > meets the relevant ABI requirements, AIUI lots of people run a > (debootstrapped?) Debian userspace with a vendor kernel of some sort. > The main sticking point wou

Re: debian on acer tablets

2014-11-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Ian Campbell wrote: > ...unless you stick with sysvinit, which is perfectly allowable and > reasonable. systemd is just the default in Jessie, not the only option. Indeed. On tablets one is probably going to be running one of the desktops, which are getting syste

Re: debian on acer tablets

2014-11-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > For the record, what's the cutoff point? According to systemd git, it appears to be 3.7, 3.8 for smack, 3.14 for systems with audit and containers. There are also a number of CONFIG_* options that are required to be enabled: http://cgit

Re: debian on acer tablets

2014-11-30 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 13:24 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> In the meantime, I want to ask again, what's the outlook for an acer >> a200 (nvidia A7 processor)? How much work would I be looking at to get >> a useable OS, if, say, I could extract the

Re: debian on acer tablets

2014-11-30 Thread Ian Campbell
On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:12 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Ian Campbell wrote: > > > (one thing I'm not so sure about is when the vendor kernel is an > > "android" kernel. But I think those should still support "normal" > > userspaces ok). > > There are some minor issu

Re: debian on acer tablets

2014-11-30 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Paul Wise wrote: On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Ian Campbell wrote: (one thing I'm not so sure about is when the vendor kernel is an "android" kernel. But I think those should still support "normal" userspaces ok). There are some minor issues that are possible to workaround: https://wiki.d

Re: debian on acer tablets

2014-11-30 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Ian Campbell wrote: > (one thing I'm not so sure about is when the vendor kernel is an > "android" kernel. But I think those should still support "normal" > userspaces ok). There are some minor issues that are possible to workaround: https://wiki.debian.org/Chroo

Re: debian on acer tablets

2014-11-30 Thread Ian Campbell
On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 13:24 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > In the meantime, I want to ask again, what's the outlook for an acer > a200 (nvidia A7 processor)? How much work would I be looking at to get > a useable OS, if, say, I could extract the relevant drivers from the > kernel source? Debian's users

debian on acer tablets

2014-11-28 Thread Joel Rees
I've asked before, and was told that the best bet was one of the android apps that builds partial or parallel debian userland. I have been playing around with the no-root debian app, but I seem to have reached the limits of that app. I've downloaded Acer's "kernel sources", but that's huge, and I